Sustainable Power Isn't working

Amen to that JB, and they are not the first bunch of prats either…

I think this is a good assessment of nuclear power generation…

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Hi

Thanks for posting that OGF, it is a very good video explaining things.

Nuclear will never be cheap.

We can however reprocess the fuel, so I am not worried about that.

Nuclear Waste?

Yes a problem but we can deal with it.

The problem is geology, it needs to be buried in certain places to be safe, unfortunately those places are smack bang in the middle of the Tory Heartlands.

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It could bed stored as hydrogen, created by electrolysis during periods of excess generation and then burned in gas turbines when needed to spin the generators. The only so called waste product would be water vapour.

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Are they? Disused mine shafts?

Yes, I’m all in favour of hydrogen. It could be the fuel of the future if used in fuel cells in vehicles.
How Do Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles Work? | Union of Concerned Scientists (ucsusa.org)

I’ll look that up LongDriver. Are you saying that the electricity produced when we least need it can be used to produce Hydrogen instead of it being wasted? That would be excellent…
:+1:

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There are systems that store energy for later use and then use that energy for demand later. Dinorwig Power Station is one such. Installed capacity is 1,800 MW.

I agree JB, the trouble with going electric is that all the conventional engines would be scrapped. If Hydrogen or Methane was used, most of the conventional engines could be converted. Surely that must make more sense than scrapping them. I thought recycling was being encouraged.

Certain geological conditions must be right for that kind of storage Besoeker.
Lakes on top of mountains for example. Wouldn’t the damage to the natural environment be immense if we started creating lakes everywhere?

It is in Snowdon National Park so no real lakes or high mountains. The tallest mountain in England is just 978M.

“To preserve the natural beauty of Snowdonia National Park, the power station itself is located deep inside the mountain Elidir Fawr, inside tunnels and caverns.”

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Yes I’ve visited it Besoeker, and I was impressed, but a lot of it was already established by nature. To recreate that elsewhere would require some major medling.

And some not. Pitlochry is another source. It’s a renewable source.

Then you have Bombs that aren’t inter ballistic, such a conundrum.

@ Swimfeeders,What!! Buying them back again??
They are allready doing that with the railways too !!
Maybe this is a way of transfering money from the public purse into
the private sector again, and again,and again etc,etc!
Ah, but wait, didn’t we only grant them a licence to run them for a limited
number of years ?? So if we wait we will get them back automatically without
paying anything won’t we ??
Donkeyman!

@spitfire , Arf,Arf, Don’t you mean intercontinental Spitty ??
Donkeyman! :+1::roll_eyes::+1:

No, that’s Old School.

I mean stationary.

Yes, I see no real future in EVs after people begin to realise that they are not a practical option for many people who cannot charge them up at home and, of course, their limited range.

Hydrogen or methane can be filled much more quickly at filling stations and, as you say, existing engines can be converted to use them.

What you say is partly true but Australia is the flattest continent yet uses a lot of pumped hydro to store energy in various schemes.

Snowy Mountain Scheme 2.0 is a lot of pumped hydro.