I wasn’t thinking about brain tumour and cancer risk OGF, but about the potential link between our mental illness epidemic and the vast increase in rollout of this radio wave tech. This would be far more difficult to prove, but to say that our young people are so anxious and stressed purely because of lockdown is a nonsense.
Anyway the link to the original thread topic is that mental illness and reduced life expectancy are very much linked. In the past this would have been linked to alcohol or drug abuse, but incidence of that is falling in young people (I believe) it’s not so trendy and fewer smoke or drink to excess (as compared with my Gen X)
Do you mean the actual waves or how the waves are being employed - that is, social media on phones? Certainly there appears to be a strong correlation between stress, mental illness & depression and issues related to social media use & abuse.
I was thinking about the effect of the exponential increase in waves on the development of the brain in the womb and childhood/adolescence. It’s impossible to assess any of this as there are too many confounding variables.
Scientists are working on using ways to alter brain structure or chemistry using radio frequency technology. This is on the basis of evidence that it can affect neural stimulation and influence various brain activities. There’s no way to prove any of this other than the way I felt when wifi was first introduced. I’ve got used to it I guess.
I’m sure when some were saying smoking is harmful, people would say it’s not the cigarettes, it’s the pollution or other factors
I can see that it is tempting to link the dramatic increase in radio wave presence over the last hundred or so years with cancer, illness and health problems. But why would so many esteemed research bodies state so very clearly there is no link? And are there not so many other changes and new stuff that has come into common use over the last hundred years or so? Here is my top of mind list
forever chemicals
stainless steel
most polycarbons and plastics … and their micro plastic residual presence
electricity, high voltage, low voltage - all the variants
cars, car tyres
penicillin, aspirin, antacids
artificial food colouring, sweetening and flavouring
factory raised chickens
artificial fertilizers
chelates in animal feed (ok, I knew artificial animal feeds really only took off in the 1950’s but I had to look up the correct term for feeds with added mineral salts)
This list could go on and on. I suspect there are dozens of things now in common use that did not exist previously. And it might be one, or two or many or a combination of a few that are driving the increase in serious illness. Why pick on radio waves when there are so many other candidates? Perhaps you are aware of radio waves and less aware of chelates?
Hi Lincs I’m not linking them with cancer illness and health problems, I’m saying there’s a probable link between foetal, infant, child and adolescent brain development, the mental illness epidemic among young people and the huge increase in high frequency waves we have seen in the last 20 or so years. They are passing through our brain tissue all the time and it would be interesting to know what effect that has on the developmental stage of the brain. Scientists are exploring the use of radio waves to change our brains (for the benefit of trying to treat some mental illnesses), so if they think they can change the way the brain functions using this tech, it makes it feasible to expect that the brain’s development (when the cells are very elastic) could also be affected by the massive rise of radio waves going through every single person that’s living on the grid.
because I am not talking about cancer or other physical illness, and most of the things you list have been around for far longer than this mental health crisis. I’m talking about recent changes not the last 100 years.
It’s impossible to prove any links anyway, there are too many variables. I only know that I felt fantastic sleeping off grid. That’s just something I’ve noticed. But I don’t go around wearing a tin foil hat.
Breast cancer and prostate cancer are relatively new, I took a friend for treatment for her breast cancer and was speaking to the charge nurse who had worked in this department for thirty years. She told me that in the past they were treating five patients per day, since then it has escalated to 40 per day.
It’s easy to find information on the net that insists that RF waves are not harmful to humans, you need to ask yourself, who finances these studies?
Also, are we forgetting the harmful effects to a foetus, or indeed DNA that certainly won’t be observable in ten or twenty years.
It will be present in newborns many years into the future as seems to be happening with breast cancer.
We are also forgetting about all the nuclear testing that occured in the world back in the day…They thought this would be safe in the future.
Bearing in mind that radiation can have a half life of hundreds of years and may still be present in the atmosphere.
The timeline certainly suggests that it could be a very important factor the recent illnesses.
It has been observed in many generations after the testing with cancers and mutations.
Could it be the gift that keeps on giving?
And it just goes to show that most information on T’ net is either unreliable or manipulated.
I agree that its important to be open to doubt here and your challenge is fair. Have you tried to find who does fund these studies or find info that suggests such studies are biased?
I have also noted in the past that you are sceptical about the links between man made pollution and global warming. You do know that the oil industry has been found to fund studies that make the same claim as your scepticism? Did you ask who funded the studies that informed your doubts? Yes, I am suggesting that your doubts about funding of studies are only for potential issues that you agree with. Otherwise you seem to have no such challenges.
Anyway, back to radio waves. I did find a meta study that assessed the findings of 20+ actual studies and all of them came back with the same conclusions om radio wave safety. Perhaps all 20+ studies were actually funded by Vodafone or similar … but that seems to me be a bit unlikely. But who knows…?
you can say that about every single study. I questioned a drug with a medical professional because a study had been carried out linking it to heart failure and was told it wasn’t serious research because it was an “American study”!
That’s true Annie, but when I was a kid back in the fifties and sixties I didn’t know anyone with breast cancer or prostate cancer…
You might say “Why would I” being so young? But my Nanna used to visit every Sunday and the main topic of conversation over dinner was who was poorly, who died, and what of…
back then, by the time it was detected the cancer will have spread and would no longer be classed under those specific headings
the highest prevalence for these cancers has always been in old age.
I remember in the old days people were just classed as having cancer. Cancer was always a terminal diagnosis. I think the only cancers you would hear about would be leukaemia, brain tumours, liver cancer or lung cancer. In the 70s you had the sudden push on smoking linked to lung cancer after so many decades of ignoring the risk. I remember having a projector film in the school assembly hall showing the tar in the lung after smoking.
The others became more differentiated from the 80s onwards. I don’t think there was much screening other than cervical in those days. It’s really high profile celeb deaths that have raised the profile of some of the other cancers.
I’m not convinced of the link between RF waves and cancer, although of course there’s a strong link between radiation exposure, the highest acceptable risk is actually radiotherapy treatment.
Yes Annie, nearly all old people in those early days, but now there is a high incidence of young people with cancer and heart problems.Some are even born with arthritis, heart problems or even cancers and tumours bringing down the average life expectancy.
In those early days vaccinations really did their job but are we becoming too advanced for our own good and in fact we are being over medicated, which spills over into our children.
The amount of medication administered each day must be a million times greater than the odd antibiotic prescribed when I was a kid.
