Smart motorways

Instead of spending billions on HS2 which few people will get any benefit from, why not spend that money on adding extra motorway lanes instead. heaven knows we need those extra lanes. Ever tried getting to London Airport for example you need to allow and extra couple of days just to get there

I guess that someone is teaching all those foreign tourists, and Truck Drivers, who are sitting there driving from the left seat of their vehicle, how to deal with this amazing idea?

We need to remind all our families that they should get out of a broken down car and climb over the railings ASAP.Trouble is, that only helps with those broken down - the car which runs into it is still a problem!

Talking about it on Jeremy Vine at the moment!

The cost of HS2 is very high and with BREXIT its value is much reduced but investment in anything that will take road vehicles, especially polution fossil fuel burners off our roads and not damaging OUR environment MUST be worthwhile.

A very good start in that direction will be when our national speed limit is reduced to 80 kmh and rationing of fuel and maybe even road use introduced along with a pay per km surcharge.

You are being delusional if you think that people will give up their cars to travel on an extremely expensive train. Train fares are exorbitant now, so goodness knows how much HS2 fares will be if the carbuncle ever gets built.

So price people out of their cars and introduce other measures such as rationing of fuel and road use taxes based on distance.

OUR environment simply can not afford people to use polution forms of transport. That is the thing that is unaffordable.

I agree that HS2 has lost its attraction after BREXIT but a huge rethink where public transportation must take place. There is no alternative.

We have MPH not KMH , don,t know where you are but certainly not in the UK

So is anybody able to answer the question I asked back in post 4, about where are we supposed to pull over if we have a break down now, and are they removing the motorway phones along the hard shoulders? :confused:

Who would dare to stop and use one of the phones with traffic thundering by just inches from them? :shock:

I’ve been using SI units since my undergrad days. It’s a thing that “came with the territory” for what I was reading.

You’re lucky!

Exactly.

It is often cheaper to fly on a domestic flight than to travel by rail. Marge has, for example, flown to appointments in Aberdeen because it’s both quicker and cheaper.

If an when the HS2 white elephant is ever completed, I can imagine that the carriages will be virtually empty and income from fares almost non-existent.

Of course, the people who decide to proceed with HS2 live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

I suspect if you had your way, we’d be using horses and carts.

If you really think to discourage people from using their cars, you’re barking up the wrong tree…

or perhaps just barking!

As others have said, if ever I have to stop on a smart motorway, I’ll be straight over the barrier and as far away as I can get.

Don’t expect AA or other rescue services to come and help either. The AA have announced that they will not stop on smart motorways.

The you should move with the times and use mph.

Horses and carts no, but much more use of rail for people and freight really should be MADE to happen and the best way to do that is by making use of personal care and trucks prohibitively expensive and only viable for very exceptional circumstances where the need justifies the lunatics cost.

Canals really should be brought back into service and expanded and use of coastal shipping to link with onshore distribution be brought back not to mention transport of goods by sea replacing the HORRENDOUS waste resulting from the use of air transport

We are now at the end of the cheap travel age because it is patently obvious that it has not been cheap in environmental cost terms and is big time unaffordable.

Anthropogenic climate change is now an inescapable fact and release of greenhouse gasses resulting from burning fossil fuels must end.

We’re at the end of the cheap transport age because it’s now clear that it’s anything but cheap and starting the responsible transport and movement age.

It’s cumbersome and inefficient. SI is so very much better and simpler to use.

It would be like reverting to pounds shillings and pence or pounds and ounces which surely no one would want.

So why do you drive a Mercedes AMG GLC 43 4MATIC??

I generally stick to between 50 and 60 on a run, and the reason that I bought it was because it’s a superbly built car that I liked.

It’s also a whole lot more efficient than my previous thing though I must admit the seats in the Merc are not as comfortable for my fine childbearing hips!

My wife’s rust bucket is also a much more economical thing than she previously drove moreover we now use just my car and are seriously considering flogging her thing for a hybrid vehicle.

Indeed, any car that costs over £20,000 and does less than 25 mpg should be taxed at £5,000 pa.

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I am a ‘wise’ woman!:-D:-D

They are indeed we seem to be the only country that pays these outrageous fares .
In Europe and throughout the world train fare is cheap .