What you say about most tourists coming for cruises makes sense. What is your idea of “not expensive”?
Why does no-one come for Miami anymore?
The remaining 10-20 % of tourists might be those who have a condo or house there which used to be popular.
I think commercial sites are frowned upon so will omit link but UNLESS Holidays this is a 4 day cruise from Miami to Bahamas which includes 3 meals with lunch , dinner smorgasbord if you prefer .
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Miami itself is ridiculous expensive , not nasty people but not friendly and more of a young college crowd while most who come here from Europe bit older and if with kids not looking for that Miami nonsense HOWEVER since waiting for the cruise next day they do go to beach area at night for shopping , sites , places to eat but Miami itself not their reason for coming .
As far as owning in Miami , yes enough do and in my community there are 2 couples from Europe one from Italy and one from Spain .
What has become an adult party place is Key West , I LOVE Key West but not on holidays as not into those " adult " Holidays .
Key West now is loaded with Europeans ( not family with kids ) , people from USA , etc but again to me it is like " Swingers " type thing which is every Halloween , New Years and few other holidays which is not my thing but non Holidays I love it there though have not gone in months .
Edit , let me add that the Miami of old which I used to come to when lived in Albany and the Miami of now are very different but imagine that can be said of most places . I find the Miami of now shallow , no substance , tourist type place while the Miami of old had heart and character drug Lords and all .
Maybe the building of the storage batteries will break new EPA ground.
Me not a South Florida person, like the panhandle over to Mobile, Al.
Very informative, thanks. You didn’t say, though, why fewer Canadians and tourists come to Miami? As for Europeans, I reckon it has to do with the more recent policy of the US government, has it not? And those who do come would in most cases not make the trip for a 4-day cruise but for one lasting two weeks at least.
while most who come here from Europe bit older and if with kids not looking for that Miami nonsense HOWEVER since waiting for the cruise next day they do go to beach area at night for shopping , sites , places to eat but Miami itself not their reason for coming .<
That, plus the hassle they had to go through might explain your observation that some tourists stand offish. The preparation and the beginning of such a journey are anything but fun. They are usually in this mood when you get in touch with them.
No, large scale solar and wind turbine fields are too expensive, cover way too much land, and require too much maintenance. Especially the turbines sited in the sea. Very expensive to build and maintain, and are usually built and maintained by foreign companies.
Who pays for all this…The customer does on their electricity bills
And despite the country been taken over by turbines and solar farms, we still have to buy electricity from abroad. And if anyone thinks that the country is being spoilt by these unsightly monsters, there will be twice as many solar farms and turbines than there are now if we want to keep up with demand…
Just look around you, there’s your evidence, and for every turbine, just like an iceberg, two thirds of the foundations are underground and can’t be seen.
Of course, with fields full of solar panels, only a fool would believe that they are not destroying good farmland. And unlike America, grazing cattle or growing things under or near a solar farm is strictly forbidden due to security.
Really? You think the wind blows all the time up north Lincs… 
And with no backup, I doubt that turbines will supply even Orkney’s needs most of the time, especially when everybody turns their heating up. I would imagine that the best you can expect is for each dwelling to have their own small turbine. Like I said, that’s where wind turbines and solar panels charging small battery units would come into their own. And save miles and miles of copper cable.
At Thorpe Marsh coal fired plant near to where I live, as well as the two 550 mW main turbines, there were two 50 mW gas powered Rolls Royce jet engines that could be powered up in a matter of minutes to supply extra demand.
And yes, nothing wrong with Hydro Electric power plants that could also be powered up at a moments notice. all more superior to supplies dependant on sun or wind.
There is no comparison whatsoever between hydro electric and battery banks, what a ridiculous example. .
Just an important point, wind turbines have to be shut down if the wind is too strong…
And when the wind is blowing most of the electricity goes to earth if it’s not needed. Which is most of the time with solar panels. Winter in the UK is usually dark, folks come home from work, turn on the heating and start cooking…Solar panels are not producing, and if the wind isn’t blowing, which it doesn’t in a cold clear high pressure system…you are going to have to strike up the barbi in the back garden…in the dark and burn some coal or a derivative.
A claim with no verification - whereas the info on building a new clean(ish) coal fired power station is that this would be 10-20 times more expensive than wind power for the same output. That was made clear in my earlier post. Then you chuck in claim that the wind power is more expensive to operate … neatly forgetting that the coal power requires massive amount of … coal. Unless you have hard info to compare maintenance of wind power versus maintenance and fuel costs for coal then your claim is empty. Same as the claim that a wind farm requires more materials to build than a coal power plant (no evidence provided) or that leaves unusable land around them. Not true, forests grow around them. The area impacted is small - whereas coal powered need acres of ugly brown field for marshalling the coal, for the dozens of workers, for the slag, for the huge buildings and cooling towers.
Your argument about ugliness is astonishing - I’ve seen coal power stations and the slag heaps they produce - not a pretty sight.
As for solar farm security preventing sheep from using the fields under and around the panels. What? The fences have gates, the sheep can be led in - kind of like (exactly like) sheep are put into ordinary fenced fields. Or do see the sheep themselves as some sort of security risk. I suppose after the government slapped a terrorist order onto a simple protest group then it is possible they will label a flock of herdwicks as terrorists.
Now, why did they site big ugly old coal power stations up north? These plants, like Thorpe Marsh, were huge.- 45 hectares (130 acres) of dirty industrial ugliness. It is a strange thing to wish for more of these.
I answered your post but due to links has to be looked over so hopefully if approved makes my point .
South Florida is not bad as I like Broward County and Key West ( NOT Holidays ) but Miami itself very expensive not well run and as you Florida has beaches everywhere so more and more older people going further north as less crowded beaches .
However the difference in temperature in winter is like 2 different countries when Northern Florida has let’s say high 60s during day Miami can still be in 80s so Winter beach goers hit Miami .
Overall this is not the Miami of 30 years ago more now a younger beach crowd which likes to party going to insanely expensive clubs is much of the tourism which come for Miami beach .
I would do same if in my mid 20s and could afford the beach .
How about combined cycle gas turbine power stations ? I did mention those earlier but you seem to have conveniently forgot about those.
I consider any kind of conventional power station far more superior, cheaper and more efficient than wind or solar powered systems that are totally impractical to supply a nations energy requirements.
It is clear that this is what you believe. However, you never ever put forward data to back up this believe. It seems your admiration of big steam powered turbines gets in the way of you accepting that a lot of smaller turbines might add up to the same power output … without costing more. Your believe is not what is actually correct. So I’d look away now.
I have already shared the comparatives costs between carbon recovery coal plant and the same power output for wind - at 10-20 times cheaper for wind.
To build a gas turbine power station, say 500MW, would be about £1 billion (current info on new gas turbine plants built today is $2,400 per kW output). The same power output from wind would be half that (150 x £3.3million per 3MW turbine).
Same power, less costly to set up … and patently less costly to run as the fuel is free (so efficiency is not a valid comparison unless you want to demonstrate how costly fossil fuel plants are to run compared to free-fuel wind or solar).
Happy to share my sources if you want. Or you could just google “cost of gas powered plant” yourself … and test your believes.
Canadians as of today are gone I have not met one and used to speak them all the time , I know people in my area who work for a popular cruise line and they say even Chinese which loved cruises ( if can afford it ) are gone .
I do not speak Chinese so could not chat with them like others however seemed like if they had kids , their kids did speak English
Canadians stopped coming due to tariffs and talk of 51 USA state and when I say stopped coming I mean 100 percent .
''Last year, 20 million Canadians visited the U.S. That’s over a quarter of all the tourists who come here. But in June, car crossings to America dropped by 33 percent. That’s the sixth consecutive month of decline. Air travel has also plummeted.
So why are Canadians staying away?
Donald Trump, President of the United States: Frankly, Canada should be the 51st state.‘’
I hoped that I’d hear something like that which confirms what I thought might be the reason why they are giving America a wide berth.
I have to say obviously there are no laws coming out of Canada not to travel to USA but they are as unified as can be and cruise liners , hotels , etc miss them .
Spot-on. That struck me, too, since it’s so rare. Some people and the Canadians themselves may call it patriotic.
oh yes very rare as the entire Canada is unified . I have never in my life seen something like this .
In half hour head out on friends food truck as three of us oldies hit the beach and Canadians are 100 percent gone .
" Canadians pull back on U.S. trips, threatening to widen United States’ $50 billion travel deficit’’
Canadians are skipping trips to the U.S. and visitors from other countries could soon follow threatening to deepen the United States’ $50 billion travel deficit.
Canadian airline WestJet said it has seen Canadian customers shift bookings from the U.S. to other popular sunseeker destinations like Mexico and the Caribbean.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/28/canada-united-states-travel.html
Would it matter if I did Lincs?
I actually agree with you about smaller turbines, supplying smaller more independant areas instead of pooling power into a 'National Grid. They would be able to monitor demand more accurately and power up faster than large scale power units.
I disagree with you about the assessment of the costs of a coal fired station against turbines or solar producing the same output.
This was the power output from Thorpe Marsh over the years, and even at it’s minimum output when fully operational (one point seven gW) it would require at least 450 of the largest wind turbines.
Consider the sourcing of materials, the manufacturing of 450 wind turbines, the transportation from China, the construction of suitable concrete foundations, the siting and erection of these mighty monoliths, the purchase or rent of the land required for placement over considerably more than 130 acres, and maintenance and blade replacement over the 20 - 25 years lifespan…
AI Overview
The average lifespan of a wind turbine is 20 to 25 years, though this can vary based on factors like location, maintenance, and technology. While components will need replacing during this time, the operational life can be extended with proper maintenance and favorable environmental conditions. Ultimately, the economic viability of a turbine—considering maintenance costs versus energy production returns—determines its operational end-of-life.
Factors affecting lifespan
Regular maintenance and component replacement are crucial for reaching the upper end of the lifespan. Technologies like blade monitoring can proactively detect damage to extend life by 3–5 years.
The location significantly impacts longevity. Offshore turbines often operate in harsher conditions than onshore ones, which can affect how long they last.
Wind turbines are subjected to extreme forces, which causes gradual deterioration and fatigue damage over time.
Even with good maintenance, a turbine may be decommissioned if the cost of upkeep and upgrades becomes greater than the financial return from the electricity it generates.
End-of-life and repurposing
When a turbine reaches the end of its life, components can often be dismantled and recycled.
Some companies are developing innovative ways to repurpose old turbine parts, such as using the control boxes to build tiny homes.
The blades are a particular focus for repurposing and recycling efforts.
You must also factor in the cost of a large scale battery storage facility, the cost of materials and transportation, the amount of land required, and the staff to maintain and monitor the plant. Just because energy is free at the point of generation, doesn’t mean that costs don’t occur in other areas.
Then there is the waste products…And the cost of landfill…
Sorry, I’m now too bored by your love of fat polluting power plants to even wake up.
Surprised at the cost financially, and to the environment Lincs?
Somebody has been conned big style…
If you think the green revolution has anything to do with saving the planet…Wake up man!
I often wonder how and where unfounded theories stem from. Is it a teenager maliciously posting stuff to get attention? Is it big business paying influencers to promote ideas that help their profits in some way? Is it simply people who have run out of argument in the face of simple facts and need to pivot to some other theme, no matter how unfounded it is, just to make them feel better after they have failed to prove their initial point?
