Due to high rate of unemployment, especially here in the South, younger generations here are not usually financially well-off in comparison to older ones. It’s usually the other way round here, older generations with pensions are finding themselves helping out not just their own off-spring, but their off-spring’s off-spring too. 
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This is true and there are lots of examples of this - bank of mum & dad and bank of grandparents. I guess, though, the question is about how a current year’s payout for state pensions is not provided from the previous years NI payments. That just went into the tax revenue pot for the years the NI was paid. This years pay-outs come from this years taxation (and borrowing no doubt). And pensioners do not pay NI.
What that hides is that some pensioners are still paying income tax. The earning threshold is £12.5k - so even a small private pension on top of state pension level will incur tax. So a lot people taking pensions will be paying income tax. I guess a few with private pensions will be into the higher income tax bracket for their annual “pay”. Which means that the elderly are also financially responsible for eldercare, not just the younger generations.
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I did a plumbing job at a retired UPS delivery drivers house / wife retired school teacher some time ago and his son who makes at his age twice what they did can not afford to live in Miami , Well he can but he pays $2,500 a month for a tiny one room apartment .
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To much CO2 is no good . I disagree with this guy and though I am not a scientist , more scientist then not disagree with him .
He broke from Green Peace some time ago on several issues
I tried CO2 in one of my planted tanks before adding fish , DIY method of brewers yeast , sugar and water in plastic bottle with tube line , air stone as the yeast ferments it creates CO2 which via the tube / air stone go into water column .
Plant growth was initially amazing however to much and they did not flourish so would remove it at night .
The room smelled like beer so stopped it and went with a different method .
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Denying (“CO² is not causing serious problems”) or distorting facts (“a world without CO²” - who aims at that? ) , demanding proof from his interlocutors but not providing it himself make it hard to listen to him.
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No solar farm here use the land for anything other than siting solar panels NCS… 
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That’s probably correct Lincs, but you’ve got it the wrong way round.
The green revolution is all about taking away power from the oil, gas and coal business and control of the masses. How do you get cars off the road?
Produce something that costs too much for Joe public to afford…Get people to rely on electricity because it can be turned off at a moments notice, and the price can be ramped up once it’s the only game in town. Bring in ID’s so once you’ve used up your carbon credits, no more electricity or access to your bank account . It’s actually been done in China as we speak.
Remember what you learnt in school about CO2 and the things you already know, rather than listen to the propaganda that is being spouted by the BBC etc now.
If you had proposed to a science teacher back in the sixties, half the stuff they want you to believe today, you would have been writing lines for the rest of the month…
“I must not bring misinformation to school”
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Most likely the best moving forward thing will be capturing the CO2
that the Exhaust puts to the air and pump it deep into the ground.
The world would be in worse shape though if we did everything with
horses, Oxen and Goats + Mules.
Sure, we don’t have our shat together but it’s not anyone’s faults.
It’s the plan that sux.
The main problem, its Multibllio9000nairs and Elected officials + super pacs!
Count up all the Carbonated products consumed for one of them.
Going into space, waste of Decades of $Billions.
NASA more $$$ Billions. Save the water, reducing the fish count, and blowing the dams.
What’s a Bear going to do without his Ears, be a B?
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Problem with going green if you want to suffer for the cause is that you will be the only one suffering because most of Asia , Latin America , Africa , Middle east , Russia are not going to change a thing .
China is using more solar only because of needed extra energy , cost of oil but going green per-se is not their agenda .
So if Europe / USA go green its fruitless . I do believe in less air pollution like coal but as far as C02 I do not care .
Countries simply say one thing do another .
This article is more than 4 years old but at the time plenty were saying and advanced Mexico’s energy was and low and behold they did a 180 .
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" Mexico was once a climate leader – now it’s betting big on coal’’
As the climate crisis worsens, Andrés Manuel López Obrador plans to buy nearly 2m tons of thermal coal from small producers
But to make its case for prioritising fossil fuels and re-establishing a state-run electricity industry, the Mexican government has repeatedly cast doubt on the dependability of renewables – arguing that solar and wind energy are unreliable and claiming they had been given preference over CFE hydroelectric projects.
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Coal is filthy and destroyed neighboring communities . It polluted lots of water in Pennsylvania but must say love the song .
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Most likely the world must move to one government giving the masses freedom but with a good plan, one the makes sense and will work but also adjustable for the future of the human race not billionairs / selfish greed and personal I’ll be famous crao.
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I think with AI one day there might be one world government but IMO a total disaster .
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Fair enough NCS but where I come from it made communities, and destroyed them when it was taken away.
Although I discuss with Lincs about the benefits of coal fired power stations, I do realise that pollution has been a very big problem from burning coal. I would prefer to see gas turbine power stations, as Lincs correctly points out, the land needed to store coal, and then the ash it produces when it’s burnt is immense and makes a proper mess of the surrounding country.
Gas can be piped in, and leaves no ash after burning.
If there was a way to extract the gas from coal and use it to power turbines, that would be ideal for the time being. It was done once around here, when every house used what was called ‘Town Gas’ before the arrival of natural gas, and was made just up the road from me using coal I think…A bit young to really know what was happening.
However, most of the coal fired power stations here (and there were quite a few) were all shut down within 20 years, and before a suitable alternative was put into place, hence the mess we are in now. The various governments had to rush in with green energy without thinking it through, and now are beginning to realise that it’s not up to the job without spending trillions of ££££ on the project, that realistically will never be up to the job…Such a waste when the intention was, to help save the planet. Now it’s having the reverse effect.
Carbon capture and storage is just plain silly, and I’d love to be around in a hundred years time when people can’t believe what we actually fell for back in the early 21st century… 
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I agree as far as silly trying to capture carbon and storing it , etc . Green as far as tree’s , foliage does use it up but problem is less and less green around as everything being paved.
I could not get better neighbors , community just lovely people and what they do is their business but roughly 80 percent actually have fake grass that plastic filth instead of real grass on front lawns .
This is the sad future .
I used a copy / paste print out which my neighbor did for me about how that is terrible as soil can not ‘’ breathe ‘’ and posted it on bulletin board I signed it OldGreyFox .
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When people realise what a kind, considerate, tree hugging and grass loving all round good egg I am, I think they will agree…NCS…
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That’s utterly depressing, NCS. 
I say, let the palmetto volunteer trees spring up from the ground and let the centipede grass creep and spread!
I think I need to follow suit with @OGF and go hug a tree 
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Since you run a HOA you know how things work .
I’m in a small gated community , its houses with those wooden privacy fences in back yards but front yard we have option of paying an extra 40 month for community " landscaper " to cut grass like every 10 days , cut our own grass which I do weekly or fake grass which simply looks hideous and more and more opted for fake grass .
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There are a lot of older folk on the bungalow estate where I live, and I think they put down fake grass because they might be poorly and can’t cope with a lawn. Some also block pave all of their gardens…Either way, the council should step in and look after their gardens when they get too disabled. It doesn’t have to be anything fancy, just a nice lawn that only needs cutting every few weeks. In fact, the council gardener already comes round with his mower and does the verges and green spaces, how much harder would it be to just run the mower over a couple of gardens. We pay enough council tax each year, but they waste the money on silly projects…
Once upon a time, when I was a kid, the council came round the council estate where I lived and judged peoples gardens. My Dad won it one year and came second quite often…
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I was at Schnucks Grocery the other day and the 2 Check-out girls were 60+ and 70+
Below Base Rate State’s law workers galore all over 70 years of age is out future.
No more lil cabins in the woods, it’s Lil cabins sitting in large MT parking lots, closed department store’s. Ai and robots Taxies delivering our daily rations of Rats tail. Community Urinals and Thrones for Us.
Now your taxed at the Community thrones & Laundries / showers… its modesty, be danged.
Yep your life is a shack town soon. No such thing as world brotherly love, all have the same model shack. U li9ve in a Cement parking lot in a one room Tiny Room, called a shack. No r;unning water, sewer or power, except if you got a Generac. Your life, your problem is what’s coming!
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