I have Malware, C Clean and Avast, so I don,t think I have much to worry about. I buy on line from Amazon and E bay. And that,s about it . I can check my bank balance but I do not do any transactions via my bank on computer.
Thanks . CC Cleaner Free ? Rather than Free Trial Professional ?
Ought I to install these now ?
Will they not clash with Kaspersky?
Eset Security for the past few years. It often âcatchesâ things. It seems to work very well although itâs not very user friendly IMO.
CCleaner (like others) will attempt to persuade you to take a free trial of their paid version, but I never have. I have the free version. The paid versions of both the above include bells and whistles, but I donât need them.
No, they will not clash with any antivirus software as far as Iâm aware.
Thankyou. I donât need bells and whistles either . Iâve installed both that you recommended now .
Every so often, theyâll ask you if you want to upgrade to the paid version. Just make sure you donât accidentally click the âfree trialâ, although even then you donât have to pay when your âfree trialâ expires!
Also, with the free versions you have to run them every so often. The paid-for versions do that automatically.
Free versions being available can depend on a certain number of users paying for the product. Developers to pay, mouths to feed and all that. If I keep any software on the computer for a year, I most often pay for it or donate an amount of money.
Users of W7 should note that MS stops supporting âSecurity Essentialsâ for W7 on 14th January.
One of the effects of that is that W7 users will no longer get virus definitions.
That means that W7 users will need to keep using their stand alone Antivirus Apps in order to stay safe from new virus attacks.
If you have a copy of W7, on a hard drive, or whatever, it will be worth noting that any re-installing will not have the benefit of security updates which normally float onto your PC when you re-install. The way of getting around this would be to get all the security updates now and save them somewhere for later use.
Just a thought!
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Wouldnât it be better to install the security updates now, and then install a third party antivirus software?
Whereas I avoid Windows Updates, I always take advantage of Windows antivirus updates.
The company where I used to work still has some old computers in daily use that run on XP and Win7. In fact, the applications they run were never upgraded to later versions of Windows because the companies went bust.
On a personal basis I would very much like to get rid of Win10 and use the best flavour of Ubuntu available but Iâm too much of a scaredy cat to make this transition by myself in case I make a major cock up.
For those who want to keep a W.7 system with updates, a plan might be to get them while they are available. Disk image the system when there are no more.
With a disk image to hand, there will never be a need to reinstall from scratch. The disk image will include all previously installed programs and updates.
Windows 7âs own disk imaging function or any third-party disk imaging program can be used to make the disk image.
If you do decide to go for Linux, have a look at Linux Mint. I think thatâs the one that has the most W.7-like feel about it.
Anyone who values their W7 system and doesnât ever want Microsoft to ever be able to bugger about with it, should simply DISABLE WINDOWS UPDATES completely.
We have already seen in the past the nefarious methods Microsoft are prepared to use when they sent an update down the line to everybody which forced their PCs into a W10 updgrade process with a clock ticking down telling them in how many days/hours it would happen. Absolutely shocking and arrogant mentality.
Microsoft want everyone onto their new W10 system because THEY control your PC when that happens. They can then dictate the updates and what you see on your screen. I will not go there.
I have had W7 for years and I totally disabled Windows Updates the day I bought the machines. Yes thatâs right, my laptops have never had a single Windows Update and do you know what? Itâs never once proven to be a problem, Iâve never been hacked, never had a virus that caused any issue.
I donât use Microsoft/Windows security stuff, I ALWAYS use a well established and free antivirus and internet security package like Avast, Comodo and so on. I also occasionally use Malwarebytes to do a malware scan.
Like everything else things are marketed to you using a âCampaign of Fearâ. Itâs largely BS.
I would personally stay with W7 for as long as you can but to do that you MUST disable Windows Updates completely otherwise you can be sure they will send something down the line which effectively makes you upgrade to W10 (doesnât have to be an actual upgrade update, they could just send an update down the line that causes your browser to have lots of problems with websites until you go to W10).
The large corporations are imho all working together. I used to be able to use Google Maps absolutely fine with W7 and my old IE browser. In the last 1 to 2 years Google have now started simply blocking my access to Maps. They just pop up a message about version of browser etc. I know they are simply blocking people because if I went on the website of THE AA and went to route finder/planner that would pop up a map (which states in the corner it is Google maps) and it works just fine. Thus there is no question that Google have simply decided to look at what browser you are using and if THEY donât like it they simply block you from using Google Maps. Itâs all a bit pathetic but the typical result of giving companies too much power imo.
My advice would be to always keep at least 1 W7 laptop or PC even if you decide to buy a newer W10 or above machine. But to be able to keep that W7 machine and preserve it you MUST disable Windows Updates completely.
Thanks everyone.
I have upgraded and now have Windows 10. Still getting the âfeelâ of it at the moment. I admit I did like 7 but was advised from so many quarters to upgrade. I am a real âdummyâ when it comes to computing and computers.
The hard drive has been removed from the 7 and a neighbour tells me he has a hefty sledge hammer.
Once again, many thanks.
The point I was making was that, in the event of your, maybe, doing a complete re-installation of W7, you would be able to do that off your copy of W7.
However, if you are doing a clean reinstall from Hard Disk, or whatever, due to a lost or damaged drive, the Security updates will, no longer, be coming your way.That means youâll end up with W7 but no MS security updates at all.
However, if you download the W7 security updates right now. you can save them somewhere safe and youâll, probably, be OK.
On a further level, I suspect that weâll find that the Antivirus market may well swerve quickly away from W7 as they might not make any dosh from trying to get that interface sorted. By that I mean that itâs questionable whether theyâll want to write fixes, and searches, for machines without those basic security fixes.
Is this the same as âCreate a System Imageâ in Back up and Restore (Windows 7), which is still available in W10?
If you create your disk image, before MS shut off the security downloads, there are a couple of things to watch out for:-
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MS may put out some security updates on the eve of turning off the downloads. Youâd need to make sure that you miss none because of that.
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Installing from a disk image is time travelling back to the day the disk was created. i.e. nothing which you have added, or changed, since the image was made, will be there.
The security updates, etc, will be there if they were there when you made the image. -
Needless to say, if you have more than one hard drive, or Stick, that may need rethinking - if apps are on those extra drives.
Realist said:-
âI have had W7 for years and I totally disabled Windows Updates the day I bought the machines. Yes thatâs right, my laptops have never had a single Windows Update and do you know what? Itâs never once proven to be a problem, Iâve never been hacked, never had a virus that caused any issue.â
Itâs a shame that everyone cannot say that!
But the more you go on line, the bigger the risk.
There are plenty of perps out there trying to get into other peopleâs systems - or banks.
Yes, it is the same. Works so well that it hasnât been dropped in Windows 10 âŠso far.
Youâd also need to create a start-up disk to be able to access the disk image. In the event of a catastrophic failure, start the system from the start-up disk or USB stick, access the disk image (stored on a drive other than the C: drive) and start the recovery procedure.
Whether preferring to install updates or not, making a disk image is a good measure to take.
Thanks. 
Iâve been going online for 30+ years and am online probably 16hrs a day every day.
People are largely ignorant of updates and have absolutely no clue whatsoever they are updating their machines with. They just live in that ignorance and devolve the research and problem to Microsoft saying âIâll just leave it up to MSâ
Those that naively did this a few years ago found that the company they had trusted, had sent a specific and special update down the line to their PCs which was a bloody devil to get rid of and which, if left to its own devices would auto-update their PC to W10 whether they wanted it or not.
A machine should only ever be updated if:
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You have identified a specific need for which you require an update
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There exists an update that meets your specific need
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You understand exactly what is in the specific update and what it will do to your PC and all software on it
The vast majority of people fail at No 1. They have absolutely no need that requires an update, they just do it because.
More fool them.