Religious Cold Callers How to Handle them?

[spitfire]

So, it is never complete at any given moment in time.

[spitfire]

Doesn’t a fact depend on completeness ?

[Lincolnshire]

@spitfire

So, it is never complete

No, never complete ever.
The Newtonian explanation of the universe was trashed by Einstein. He showed that gravity bends time and speeds changes time perspective. Newton had explained the apple falling. Now science is challenging the micro-micro (Planck level dimensions) of Einstein’s quantum mechanics.
Unfortunately its not all tidily wrapped up in one theory or equation.

[Lincolnshire]

@spitfire

a fact

What is a fact?
It is no more than the very best understanding that we have at that point in time & knowledge. But it is always open to challenge from new info or insights.

[spitfire]

But what about all the folks who aren’t into Quantum physics, they need an answer they can rely on!

[Lincolnshire]

Tough. If they aren’t up to grasping quantum mechanics then they simply have to accept the ‘facts’ from those that are able. No different from accepting how your gearbox in the car works when pretty much none of us can understand the differential gearbox mechanics.

[OldGreyFox]

@Lincolnshire

I should hope so. You know, fact based, peer group validated, robustly tested. The opposite statement of ‘a small number are dis-inclined to accept a very few specific aspects of science but happily go along with everything else without question’ then makes you realise that this small number are idiots.

It’s not so much the scientists themselves, it’s the way the MSN interpret what the scientists said.
And being as the media is the one that interfaces with Joe public the facts can be biased any way the media decide. and it’s not uncommon for very important details to be left out.

[Besoeker]

@spitfire

Facts facts facts, always being re-evaluated when new data becomes available, FGS.

A metre rule is a fact. How would you re-evaluate that ?

[spitfire]

With my “Yardstick” of course.

[spitfire]

Don’t start.

[Besoeker]

@spitfire

With my “Yardstick” of course.

A yard is a yard. You don’t re-evaluate that. It is what it is. A fact.

[spitfire]

You are talking to a NIMBY!

[Besoeker]

@spitfire

You are talking to a NIMBY!

Well done you!

[spitfire]

It ain’t about applause.

[Besoeker]

Well, since it isn’t in your back yard maybe you mean SI ?

[spitfire]

You’ve posted a lot in this topic! Consider giving others an opportunity to reply here and discuss things with each other as well.

Well that’s me told!!!

[spitfire]

Sorry folks, enough is enough, apparently

[Besoeker]

@spitfire

You’ve posted a lot in this topic! Consider giving others an opportunity to reply here and discuss things with each other as well.

And I apologise for the digression.

[spitfire]

The resident Bot is getting very authoritarian, given me bad vibes again.

[spitfire]

@Besoeker

And I apologise for the digression.

Don’t think you digressed Bes!