Quite … then that’s not an opinion.
And so we have gone full circle …
A recap … this is where it all started,
A woman has been sentenced to 3 years for manslaughter after the death of a lady cyclist … on a pavement that it is even disputed whether it was in fact legally a shared pathway or not.
Your cutting and pasting swathes of ‘UK Law for Dummies’ is not going to change the facts.
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I’m not posting “inaccuracies and downright misinformation”
I’m not trying to change the facts - for your sake, it seems that I’m continually re-posting them.
Now you’ve got it!
Because you don’t or can’t see the shades of grey … but only the black and white of the verdict … you don’t think you are voicing an opinion. Your perceptive thinking goes no further than the verdict.
When in reality, when it concerns the viewing of any video filming the incident your perception changes and you stated … quite categorically, that she was pushed.
Which is sheer and mere opinion.
Which is erroneous.
Of course you are entitled to an opinion on whether I have an opinion or not but an opinion is not fact.
Oh god … I hate to do this … but …
Oh yes he is.
Seriously Omah, you’re just repeating yourself now and I can’t see us agreeing on anything or adding anything new to the discussion.
Perhaps we ought to wait until there are new developments in the case hey? Then we can both have some fresh material to mull over and discuss.
At the rate we’re posting the forum software will start to smoke.
Correct, your opinion is not fact . . whereas my opinion that your opinion is not based on fact is actually a fact based on an observation of your opinion.
Well, I thought you’d finished before:
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The seismograph is registering your little fingers thumping the keyboard … I can feel it from here. 
Let’s wait until there’s something new to add hey.
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She had a defence council whom I am sure put all these circumstances in front of the judge and jury .
There was a creditable witness who stated there was contact ,
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You’re right I did. But that was because you accused me of deviating from your thread when I mentioned a case where a cyclist had killed a pedestrian, purely for a comparison to this case… but apparently not acceptable.
Whereas tonight, I’m back discussing this one.
Is there something wrong with that?
I’m only suggesting a break now until there is more developments because we just seem to be headbutting now and not discussing anything.
There was contact or there might have been?
Why has no one mentioned the family of the dead cyclist? Everyone is focusing on the slightly mad Lady who is behind bars, in most other cases that did not involve a bicycle, the deceased family was always a consideration, strange that?
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Some shared pavements are. There is one in my area where riding on the road is preferable for that reason, even though it is very wide. Another where the dividing line is clear, the path is quite wide and less populated by both cyclists and pedestrians. It’s much safer for everybody and I ride on that one. Just a case of using judgement rather than asserting rights.
Cycling on the road is quite safe providing the same rules are applied that motor vehicles have to stick to. Treat the bicycle the same as driving a car or a motorbike. Very important to know what’s behind by fitting a mirror. Drivers don’t make manoeuvres without a glance in the mirror. Same with a bike. A mirror makes cycling much safer in my opinion. Potholes, drains, person-hole covers and generally uneven road surfaces give more dangers than motor vehicles. Ride a bike with consideration to all.
Trips under five miles are certainly cycled, albeit by e-bike these days. Been cycling locally for 26 years and no upsets with pedestrians or motorists yet. Very sad about the incident under discussion here but I don’t want to take part in that. Just writing to say to anyone who would like to start cycling that bicycles can be ridden safely and without causing hate or friction.
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It happened in October 2020. Two and half years of waiting for a verdict on this … must have been torturous for them.
I believe the judge said her disability played no part in her crime ….
She was responsible for the death of another person
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I wasn’t there but a creditable witness was .
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They wouldn’t have had to wait if Grey had admitted her guilt but the judge said she was evasive and lied in interview before pleading not guilty at trial then refusing to give evidence herself.
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That statement assumes that your perception and interpretation of your observation is correct.