Partygate: No easy return for Boris Johnson after Easter break

This thread is about questions to BJ in the House of Commons re Partygate.

The “other” thread, which I assume you are referencing, is about the Metropolitan Police investigation into No 10 lockdown parties.

Titles and tags indicate the contents of each.

Actually thee are 6 threads which Partygate is the main theme three started by you.

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I have started (probably) hundreds of threads with “Boris Johnson” as a “theme” … :man_shrugging:

@Omah , Yeah , we’ve noticed !!
Donkeyman!! :weary::weary:

I have not mentioned Boris Johnson. :grinning:

BJ and Partygate go together like “hanky” and “panky” … :lol:

Boris Johnson is set to apologise for breaking his own lockdown laws when he makes his first statement to MPs since being fined by police. Mr Johnson has vowed to “set the record straight” when he speaks to MPs at about 16.30 BST. The prime minister is expected to say he did not knowingly break the rules (1) at a 2020 birthday party at No 10.

Opposition parties have accused him of lying to Parliament after he previously told them no rules had been broken. MPs will vote on Thursday on whether the Commons privileges committee should launch an investigation into the issue.

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle accepted Labour’s request for a vote earlier, adding he had decided there was an “arguable case to be examined”.

(1) “Rules? Where BJ goes, he don’t need rules.”

It’s not as if [Johnson] walked into a rave in Ibiza.

The prime minister was there for a very short time. He was eating a salad lunch in the Cabinet room with people he worked with all day. People kept popping in.

The ways it’s been characterised, you would think there were pole dancers.

He was, in a sense, ambushed with a cake.

He’s not robbed a bank. This is getting out of control.

Tories defend the indefensible with the derisible … :roll_eyes:

Don’t you think politicians have always told lies and been in it for themselves? Nothing new here.
I’d still sooner have Boris than Starmer any day.

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Always entertaining from this side of the pond! :grin:

Hi

It is a basic tenet of UK Law that the law appllies to every person equally.

An awful lot of ordinary people got fined over Covid breaches and these should equally apply to Politicians.

A fine of £50 is a lot of money to some, it is peanuts to Boris and co.

Indeed … :+1:

Government whips scrambled on Wednesday night to derail a Labour motion designed to trigger a Commons inquiry into whether Johnson lied about rule-breaking in Downing Street – including the potential release of hundreds of damaging messages and photographs.

Amid a growing backlash from Tory MPs, the government privately conceded it could not whip them to block an inquiry by the Commons privileges committee. It instead tabled a motion to delay the inquiry until after the publication of the final Partygate report by Sue Gray, a senior civil servant.

Thursday’s motion gives four examples of Johnson assuring MPs, including him being “repeatedly assured since these allegations emerged that there was no party and that no Covid rules were broken”.

The motion also says the inquiry should begin after the conclusion of the Met investigation, with Johnson expected to receive at least three more fines for breaches in the coming weeks.

Among frontbenchers there was palpable disquiet that MPs should be forced to block an investigation into the prime minister, who received a police fixed-penalty notice last week.

One minister admitted it would be hard to justify Johnson avoiding an investigation for potentially misleading parliament, saying: “If it’s the same process every MP faces, then why should it be different for the PM?”

A government spokesperson said: “The government has tabled an amendment to Labour’s motion which says that consideration of this matter should take place after the conclusion of the police investigation and the publication of the Cabinet Office [Sue Gray] report, allowing MPs to have all the facts at their disposal.”

BJ’s strategy for survival - lie, deny, delay … :icon_rolleyes:

In a major U-turn, the government has ditched an attempt to delay a new inquiry into whether Boris Johnson misled parliament over Partygate.

Amid fears of a rebellion, it was reported that Tory MPs would be whipped to back a last-ditch government amendment which sought to delay a vote for an inquiry by the privileges committee until after the conclusion of the Metropolitan Police investigation.

But in an apparent climbdown moments before the debate, Commons leader Mark Harper announced that “the vote on the unamended House business will be a free vote to all Conservative MPs”.

Labour has threatened to plaster the names of MPs who block the inquiry across election leaflets, and accused the prime minister of seeking to distract from his domestic woes with his two-day trip to India.

Tory “blockers” should be named and shamed … :man_shrugging:

Can MPs call the PM a liar?

The SNP’s Ian Blackford has called Boris Johnson a liar during the debate.

Normally an MP is required to withdraw such an accusation towards a fellow member of the Commons or be ejected from the chamber by the speaker, as Blackford was himself in January.

But for this debate Sir Lindsay Hoyle said it is “perfectly in order for honourable members to question the veracity of the prime minister’s responses to the House cited in the motion”.

However, it is not in order for MPs to question his truthfulness more generally or in relation to other matters.

Liar, liar, pants on fire, nose as long as a telephone wire!

What’s just happened?

After a day which began with the government attempting to delay a vote on holding a Commons inquiry into the PM, it all finished with a bit of a fizzle, rather than reaching a level of fever-pitch excitement.

It looked as though the government were seeking to change Labour’s motion this morning, putting any investigation into whether the prime minister misled parliament to a future unspecified date.

Moments before the debate started, the government said they wouldn’t be putting forward their amendment. As the afternoon went on, Conservative MPs were told they no longer had to vote to help Boris Johnson, the three-line whip was removed, and slowly the Tory benches got quieter as the debate wore on.

We didn’t even get a full vote. Opposition, and some Conservative MPs, will have shouted yes to whether or not to open an investigation. No-one shouted no to the motion.

At that point, it was passed, without any formal 15-minute window for MPs to cast their vote in the division lobbies.

Bear in mind, this does not mean the investigation will start straight away. The motion specifically said the investigation should start after the publication of the Sue Gray report. That report will not be published until the Metropolitan Police has finished its investigation and issued fixed penalty notices.

This story could go on for some time yet.

No respite for BJ.

Good take on it.

(50) :rotating_light: BREAKING: MPs Vote Against Boris Johnson - YouTube

An aside my Son In Law who is a rabid Conservative will be voting Labour in the May council elections as well as my self whom is also a right-winger.

My lovely daughter is is a leftie(Corbyn supporter) is laughing her head off over us two.

Get the pop corn out folks.

Several newspapers are leading with the decision by MPs to launch an inquiry into whether Prime Minister Boris Johnson deliberately misled Parliament over lockdown parties in Downing Street. The Telegraph reports Mr Johnson has said he has “nothing to hide” over the fresh Partygate investigation. It says the PM made an “about turn” over plans to block it after Tory MPs rebelled amid fears it would cost them at the local elections.

The gig is up, Boris”, is the Metro’s headline - repeating a call from Conservative MP Steve Baker for the prime minister to resign. The paper says the influential backbencher, who had originally praised Mr Johnson’s “humble” apology, later accused the PM of an “orgy of adulation” at a gathering of Tory backbenchers.

The Times reports that ministers were on the “brink of quitting” before the government changed course. The paper says at least six members of the government had told whips they would not support the plans to block the Labour Party’s motion to launch an inquiry, describing the row as a “revolt of middle ranks” which forced the “humiliating climbdown”.

The new investigation will have “power to demand photos” from parties in No 10, reports the i. The paper quotes a Tory MP who criticises No 10’s "shambolic" U-turn, saying it has made the party look like “idiots” and claiming the fault lies with the PM, rather than the party whips.

The Guardian’s headline describes the events as a “day of humiliation” for Mr Johnson, reporting that the rebellion and calls for him to resign dealt “blows to his authority”. The paper also notes the “widespread anger” among Tory MPs, quoting an email to constituents by former Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt who described the fines issued to the PM and Chancellor Rishi Sunak as “shocking and disappointing”.

Hi

Boris will fight everything, he will use every trick in the book.

A change of PM does not mean an election.

A new Conservative PM may well reunite the Country and make a better job of the Ukraine War.

After the Commons has found itself engulfed with scandal and accusations of bad behaviour, the Speaker sought to remind MPs of their duty to voters. He vowed failure to honour the MPs’ code of conduct would be met with “serious sanctions” as he read the riot act to parliamentarians.

His comments come off the back of the resignation of Tory MP Neil Parish for watching porn in the Commons, and claims of sexism within Parliament.

He told those in the Commons that it was not his job to check the accuracy of statements made by members and that those who inadvertently mislead Parliament are expected to swiftly correct the record.

A ripple of hushed words could be heard around the Commons following the comments, with MPs on Opposition benches making clear they believed the comments referred directly to the Prime Minister.

Mr Johnson has faced repeated accusations from Opposition MPs of failing to be truthful at the dispatch box.

It is against House of Commons rules for an MP to deliberately lie in the chamber.

However, it is also a disciplinary offence to accuse another member of having deliberately misled the House, making it almost impossible for action to be taken against MPs in breach of the rules.

“Deceiver, dissembler
Your trousers are alight
From what pole or gallows
Do they dangle in the night?”

From “The Liar” by William Blake