You’re joking, right Annie?
At present, much of what we eat, burn, wear or drive comes from other countries. Are you saying that the cost of transport from Australia, New Zealand, China etc, and then the cost of diesel for an endless convoy of trucks stretching from Folkstone to Edinburgh would be less expensive that my local farmer selling me spuds, carrots, sprouts, apples, etc that were grown just a mile from my house?
Half a dozen coal fired power stations would supply all the power we need and rid the country of thousands of wind turbines and hectares of solar panels, not to mention the thousands of tons of dangerous lithium storage facilities. Talk about ‘sustainable’…there is enough coal and north sea gas and oil to keep the lights on for the next three hundred years…By which time, we might have figured out a better way of producing electricity and heat.
OGF that might have worked in the days we had a population of under 5 million, ate cabbage and potatoes and used night soil to fertilize. Modern farming methods to feed a population of 70 million don’t come cheap particularly given we a) don’t have capacity to produce more than 50% of our own food and b) have a very sketchy climate. So why do you think local farm shops are so expensive if your idea is so economical?
that seems to be the case and I’m interested that it has been reported by the mainstream media as such. The very large sales started before the official announcement so definitely inside dealing which is surely a serious criminal offence.
So does that mean that we just give up and get blackmailed or held to ransom by other countries. It’s not that we don’t suddenly start producing our own stuff Annie, it’s the fact that we are moving in the wrong direction seem happy to give it all away after being a country that could do it all.
We have been a trading nation for centuries. The alternative is the kind of rationing that Britain had during WWII. The fact that the government doesn’t protect our national and international interests sufficiently isn’t because we are a trading nation but down to state-led incompetence and doubtless a high level of hidden corruption or loopholes. We can complain about the latter but it’s always been part of the nations culture.
I accept that we have always been a trading nation Annie, but we’re not a trading nation now, we just buy stuff in.
We don’t need to go on rations either, wouldn’t it be better to kick start our own industries, create jobs and still receive imports until we can do it ourselves. We are going the other way, gradually closing down parts of industry and farming. Losing skills and workers to other countries. And I don’t blame them. Even foreign workers that came here have given up on us and are going home. We are building a collection of the worlds idle and benefit seekers that nobody else wants.
OGF I think people who know more than we do about food security, energy security etc have checked and there’s no way that we can sustain a population of 70 million without imports.
I could suggest something that I think would solve the problem, but suffice to say we could do a lot more than we are doing now to become more self sufficient, and that doesn’t include covering prime farmland in solar panels.
Yes, why is that?
It couldn’t be because we have allowed ourselves to get lazy and let the Americans do all the hard work. Doesn’t that tell us a lot about globalism and how it’s not working.
If we had got our finger out when we had the chance and capitalised on North Sea oil and gas like Maggie suggested we did, we would not be blaming an American president for everything that is wrong with the world.
presumably it would involve covering farmland in night soil? there’s no shortage of that in Britain!
Exactly what hard work have these ever so generous Americans being doing for us? Dragging us into Iraq and Afghanistan perhaps? Selling us wildly expensive fighter jets?
I do not buy into this myth pushed by Trump that the west owes the US bigly for all its expenditure on its own military. Especially when he then goes and starts this war against Iran.
For many years we did and Thatcher’s role here was to waste it all away on tax cuts for the already wealthy.
But perhaps read my post of 21 hours ago - when I wondered if there might be merit in opening up new oil fields for the UK.
Not sure what country your referring to. The country which is your home now, France wasn’t involved. Or the UK!
I agree the United States of America should not go in to the UK and force their soldiers and equipment to Iraq and Afghanistan. But the facts are UK decided to go. Have to learn, other governments can’t force another government to do things they don’t want to.
As Donald has been finding out…
That the UK is on such disarray. Correct
We appear to be ok-ish in the UK in terms of supply, just that costs will go up, it’s the Philippines and other countries in that part of Asia that are most affected by the blockage. They just showed protests in the Philippines on the news as they only have 45 days of oil left.
That’s okay then Annie…
Well it’s not okay but at least we aren’t coming to a standstill like some nations
I was being facetious Annie…
hard to tell as you had a keir starmer smilie
That was a naughty smile Annie, it’s how most of my posts end…
