@ spitfire, Surely we don’t have to validate it Spotty ?
They have to do that , if they refuse then l intend to subtract the difference
between the old and new charges from my debit order and see how that
goes down
If everybody does this they might rethink ??
One thing ismfor sure! People are getting desperate now !!
Donkeyman! 
@Jazzi , We still cook using a radiant job and an electric kettle , and occasionally
roast in a mini oven !
We have cut takng showers down to once a week for me and to twice a week
for the other two ! The CH is off completely and the washing is done on
cold cycle, the tumble dryer is now used as a bread bin !
So far we are coping with the cold ok as l said but of you live in scotland that
will be different obviously?
I await my first bill with trepidation as my means are limited!!
Oh yes, l plan to remove the direct debit with my bank and make the buggers
send me a proper bill instead each month??
Donkeyman!
I cut down on cooking costs anyway by always using my mini oven. But think that is a bit extreme showering wise! Once a week, really? I don’t shower every day but it is more frequent than that, lol.
Aha, now I know what that pong in the air is today.
I thought it was the nearby farm. 
@Mups Well l lived off rainwater for 17yrs Mups so l suppose l have different
standards to you uvvers? I do ave a cold wash down on occasion too !!
I did Ave a job wiv the city slickers wanting to wash their cars the minute
they arrived at my place, especially when l handed them a bucket of water
to do it wiv !!
!
Donkeyman! 
Pixie, This is exactly what l feel. These are modern times not the dark ages. It’s cruel.
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I can see if this went on long term, if it led to poor sanitation and hygiene in places, we might eventually be inviting centuries old diseases back again too.
People will be afraid to flush their loos, or bath, and sewers could get more blocked, catering establishments might start cutting corners with hygiene if their bills soar . . .
I’d better stop there. It’s too easy to get carried away with doom and gloom . . . 
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Well i was reading a week or so ago, that TB was on the rise again. Don’t know if its indicative of the current situation, but I can quite understand your points.
I think the fact we are talking about it in many walks of life means more people than you would think are worried and people you do not expect to be as well.
I’m thinking of opening up the chimney and going back to a coal fire or at least a wood burner.
Is TB Two Beauties? 
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Wrong thread Spitty…
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Sorry.
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Funny how I mentioned this, because on the tea time news tonight they were on about the lack of food hygiene inspections being carried out since covid arrived.
Many places being visited now, hadnt been cleaning anything! They showed premises with kitchens full of live Cockroaches, mice and rat droppings, filthy fridges, and using disgusting old cooking oil, work surfaces that were never cleaned . . . all sorts of horrid things - and these people were selling food to the public!
The report said there are over 53,000 premises still awaiting inspection.
Meanwhile - the so called government does nothing! I bet there is not one MP - of any persuasion - that is cold or hungry or looking for ways to save fuel costs. And still they are prepared to open the doors to more and more immigrants, to send millions of £s to countries abroad - who may/may not use it against UK.
Charity begins at home !
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If my house has a chimney I would.
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