Or it is likely they don’t like having to adhere to rules and regulations, or may have a dog that is likely to be unwelcome. I once reported someone for sleeping on the church steps opposite my London flat. Two people came out to speak to him and reported back to me that he had declined any help/bed for the night. Or they have been threatened by others in the same situation, or robbed. It must be so hard for them to feel safe anywhere there’s loads of others, even in the same situation. Sadly no answer.
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This situation is very much like the way a lot of people have decided to work for an employer even when they both hate the jobs they do and just carry on doing the same old task day after day,
But some other people do things the old ways of earning a living such as was done way back in time such as trading the goods they made or had grown,
I myself found that when i decided to work for myself i had no silly idea’s of working less hours or laying in bed half the day, But it was not long until i found i could earn more day by day & week by week than when i worked for any of the verious employers I’d given my time to,
My mind was always active as to looking out for ways to improve my efforts & better my income,
A lot of people as ive said before fall into the trap of not looking around themselves and just want a wage packet in the hand every week,
When it comes to being living in doorways etc !!! How many people have not looked for bettering life as they have known it ?
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My guess would be that the vast majority of people who are sleeping rough would prefer not to be sleeping rough. The fact that they continue to sleep rough strongly implies that there is something(s) preventing them “bettering” their life. Because so many are stuck sleeping rough that surely means that will power and desire to improve things is not sufficient.
It sounds way too simplistic, indeed possibly insulting, to just say they need to get on and better their life.
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Hi Lincolnshire,
Many thanks for taking the time & effort to give your thought on this subject of people & the problems they have come across in life.
You’ve said “It sounds to simplistic & indeed possibly insulting to say they need to get on and better their lives”
But you have not said or given any advice on what they should do?
I did not and would not try to Insult any one because they have fallen down lifes Ladder,
I have said & I’ll say it again but in a different way “No free meals” if you need help and it is not given then your on the road to even more lost time in your life If you do not do something for your good of your self,
If anyone wants to look around at what some people have to deal with through no dealings of their own, if life & on a for ever situation with No cure’s for a future,
Ie the loss of sight/hearing/
Illness beyound their doing “but still they soldier on” and hope for a better future, If we all gave up you’d soon find we do not have enough doorways to use ,
These are the true people who Im talking about, Many people have crosses in life to carry, bad childhoods etc, But this is’nt a natural way to destroy your life,
But as ive said thank you for at least offering your view on this one, Lets hope between us we have shown our thoughts and perhaps it may bring to mind to some of our forum how lucky those of us are in that we have stood up to lifes test.
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Trust me, if I had any sort of idea what the homeless should do to get themselves out of their dire situation, then certainly I would be sharing it far and wide.
What I am pointing out is that it seems evident that without external help people who are homeless (by which I mean sleeping rough) find it very, very difficult to break from that situation. The challenges faced are clearly so great that simply willing a better future does not make better future happen. Not having been homeless I cannot comprehend what these challenges are - but one can imagine:
- unable to get a job because no address, difficulty getting washed, difficulty get clean & presentable clothes, difficulty in travel, irregular place of overnight location
- unable to get a bank account as no money, no address and possibly bad financial track record and therefore definitely unable to borrow money
- unable to get secure accommodation because of all of above
And that is before challenges like the temptation of alcohol or drugs, the threats from others, the risks of mental instability from all of this.
All of that convinces me that external help and support is necessary and essential to get people out from sleeping rough. And if that help is sufficient, can also get people back into paid work and into contributing to society.
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Hi Lincolshire,
We talk again,
You write a very worth while comment And for us normal every day life sort of people it is hard to understand how these situations are allowed to continue without the very powers to be not bothering to do something possitive to help,
We seem to have a golden cup full of money etc for people from other countries"who have not" put a penny into our country, "Yet we pull them off the boat’s and they recieve medical help as soon as they are on shore, "yet we have waiting list only for those who have a right to medical help they have paid into But they have to go onto a waiting list and continue with the pain involved (Hip problems etc etc etc) We provide help with land to park on for the travellers who come from who knows where, Yet we’re on hand to let these people run around and do as they see fit, both as far as motoring offences go & crime It’s even been proved the Police will not go on these travellers sites without back up due to fear of violence to them selves !! yet they are there with the local coucils blessing!
The UK is becoming a pit hole in so many ways and a lot of it is because the powers to be are not of the mold needed to do the job of running the country, We as the normal No silver spoon from birth know this but you do not promote the good worker when the time comes, you continue with who you know, “jobs for the boys” as long as they support cradel to grave hand out slops,
It has been a long time since anyone has been seen as a good Leader for the common man,
Anyone who is willing to work the funds out and sort out who should be looked after,
It must be very hard to run a country, we the average person has no idea whats involved ,
We only see what we are needed to see and no more,
But Lincolnshire
lets hope in our life times we see some changes for the good,
But just now i think you’ll agree with me, some of these so called powers tobe would give an Asrin a head ache,
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Before housing prices went through the roof, a homeless person could find a job – even a menial job – and within a couple weeks have enough money for the deposit and the first month’s rent on an apartment. That was when you could rent an apartment for $300-400 a month. Today, the average apartment in many cities is over $1500 a month! So to be able to afford rent, you’d need to earn about $25 an hour. You can’t get there by working at a restaurant or factory like you could 30 years ago. All your money would go towards housing.
I think a lot of people would rather live on the streets than work for subsistence wages (otherwise known as slave wages).
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But we all need a roof over our heads, In the usa more than the UK caravan living is very popular
But the USA weather is better for such living,
The uk would it seems rather give travellers land to use than make the same Land fit for the homeless to have as a temp home until they sort their own lives out,
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