Generation Y doom & gloom

Thanks for that (utter, utter bollocks) quotation. If you like the concept behind this statement of complete ignorance then please provide some evidence for this.
I can easily see that hard times create an environment where someone presenting themselves to the people as “strong” comes to the fore. I can see people voting for such a “strong” person. I’ve no knowledge of such a person creating good times. Or even being that strong. And they create good times for only themselves, briefly. Plenty of examples.
And please also show where and when good times create weak people. And, to be clear, I mean good times for everyone. Not a bit of wealth and privilege for a few.
This sort of pretend philosophy is surface deep and yet deeply dangerous as it is so delusional. And so very simplistic. Truth is that hard times create suffering. Good times create wealth for all. End of.
(And no surprise that you quote it. I just know that you seek a “strong man” to follow.)
PS I’m not hung up on pronouns in reference to myself but rather than she/her that you infer by your use of ma’am, I think I’d prefer they/them. Of course, day to day I’m he/him but I really do want to annoy you so let’s go with they/them.

Then you have absolutely no idea of the meaning of the quote, nor do you desire to, your desire appears to be to take offense rather than comprehending. Everyone knows that "good times’ create wealth for the “upper class”, but this rarely ever trickles down to the working class, unless you live in a system built around socialism.

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That kind of thinking is being rammed down our throats by the media and brainwashing our young people and the gullible, and is the reason for the despondency, depression, hopelessness and suicide that is so common in society today.

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I simply took the quoted text at face value. I’m not offended. I’m simply noting that it is simplistic and inaccurate. And as it is simplistic, there is not much comprehending to do.
Now, let’s explore your claim that “everyone knows that good time create wealth for the upper class…etc.”. Hey, we fully agree. You are completely right. Thanks. (no sarcasm at all)

With you (unecessarily) going off on the pronoun thingy, still have my doubts, thank you though

Ummm… Bread and circuses anyone?

LOL…the difference is these are legit.

Gen X’er here. I think the younger ones are right to feel anxious these days. I daresay I’d be fraught with it if I were their age. At least we just got on with things and figured it out on our own. Nowadays people can’t seem to make a single decision or form an opinion without having to ask the internet what it thinks. (Or A.I)

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That’s true, and so many rules & regulations and woke ways to follow.

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Actually, I would venture to say that puts them (X’ers) a step up on previous generations, while the older generations would have to research the knowledge / info they sought, the younger generations have it at their finger tips, and only their social / political leanings would dictate the type of info they were researching.

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I was just thinking that this morning when we were meeting for coffee.

Discussion came round to a TV series someone wanted to watch but could not remember the name. They remembered it stared Ben Miller so it was a matter of whipping out the old phone, looking up his page on Wikipedia and browsing his filmography list - job done in less than a minute.

When I was young information like that would be a trip to the library at the very least.

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And, forgotten again in the next minute? heaven forbid there is no signal or a flat battery.

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No ,it was Professor T but it doesn’t matter if I forget because the information will still be there

Do you forget to fill your car with fuel? I don’t forget to charge my phone.

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That story about using a smart phone to find info sums up the benefits that the younger generations simply take for granted. Convenience. It is demonstrated in smart phones, in food delivery - in all sorts of relatively minor things. A bit of convenience.
In the meantime Gen Y and younger can see that bigger, global issues are not being addressed. The brilliant minds of the world solve minor issues of convenience. They appear unwilling to tackle the big issues. If I were younger and reflected on that failure then I too would express doom and gloom.

There are points for and against Raven…
There were very few outlets of information in the auld’ days and most of them were trusted sources. These days we are overloaded with IT and finding a trusted source that doesn’t have an agenda is getting increasingly more difficult… :017:
Not so bad for discovering an actor, but not good for discovering the truth about say…Vaccines, Global warming, the wars in the Ukraine and Gaza etc…
The minefield of information can be very manipulative…

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My point still stands , but so does yours. The real issue is, are we looking for the truth, or do we just want our point to be validated ? You can find some type of validation from some source on most anything you do / say.

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The boomers were the luckiest generation because they had the most hope and fulfilment of dreams. I’m a Gen X and we definitely had it harder, but the next generation didn’t have many of our opportunities and were also saddled with expectations of high academic achievement along with the corresponding debt, little job security, high cost housing and later retirement ages. Alongside that there’s climate change, overpopulation, a shift of future wealth from West to East, the AI jobs threat, weird online dating and social scenes and corresponding angst, cyber-everything. I could go on and on.

I wouldn’t say that the boomers were necessarily the healthiest, I think that’s in fact the pre-war generation. But the boomers had the most optimistic and stable lives despite cold war threats.

Aye, but at some point, someone / people/ group will step forward because of necessity, when the pain becomes deep enough, it will bring about the needed change, everything evolves, and it is that pain which is usually the driving force.

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”
-----G. Michael Hopf

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Yes Annie, it’s surprising how lucky you can get when you work from 15 to 21 as an apprentice on ridiculous low wages and virtually no sick pay to become a skilled man and then work 12 hours a day to earn enough to buy your own property and raise a family. Although there were no silly things to spend yer money on like subscription TV, thousand pound smartphones, and fancy motors…But then, there was no such thing as ‘credit’ we had to save up for stuff and do without until we could afford it…
Blame the government and the EU for the mess that followed and us Brexiteers are trying to put things right, but it’s an uphill struggle while all our stuff is made somewhere else.
Strange how future generations got so unlucky after they sent all their young people to university instead of doing proper work and pay tax and allowed patriotism to become a dirty word…And how come the population got so unmanageable? Probably because most of the Brits have become ponces and lazy B’stards and would rather import people to do the work that they should be doing.

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Don’t matter what “Gen” you are, you just have to “Work” through it!

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