Coronavirus: Third wave will 'wash up on our shores', warns Johnson

No, otherwise I wouldn’t be asking. If Omah gets his information from the Gov’t data, where do you get your information from that is different from the official sources?

Ok, I will leave you to it then.

Ok, well…I’m sorry you find such a simple question so difficult to answer. Such a shame. Never mind, maybe you could let Omah carry on in peace now, eh?

Therefore you found it too difficult to scroll up and read what I said on Omahs posts?
A little point to note, he doesn’t respond to my questions about other stats…I wonder why? Possibly because the numbers are small and he likes large numbers? :lol:
Has for your request?…NAHHH! :lol:

No wonder he doesn’t respond. :roll:

Oh…I see, the questions were too hard? But, I am glad you took the time to read them. Thanks.
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Omah, sorry for derailing the thread. I thought Vlad had something to say. he clearly doesn’t, so I’ll just gently move him to the side while I read your posts.

A question often asked is:

Why is it (the Delta variant) so bad in the UK compared with other countries?

Here is a probable explanation:

Experts believe a major factor is the number of cases that were introduced into the UK in a short space of time, because of the volume of travel. Public Health England figures show the variant was introduced at least 500 times by travellers.

Dr Jeffrey Barrett, from the Sanger Institute, which analyses the genetic material from Covid-test swabs to work out which mutations they contain, said he believed the true number was likely to be more than 1,000.

This is important because of the irregular way the virus spreads. We talk about the R number meaning that, with no distancing or infection control measures in place, one person might infect three others on average.

But in reality, it’s not the case that every single person infects three others. Instead, one person might infect 30 others while another person infects no-one at all - whether because of differences in their biology, behaviour or living conditions.

There’s an element of chance - if 5 people arrive in the UK carrying the variant, you could get lucky and none of them would pass it on. If 500 come in, it’s just more likely at least one will pass on their infection, or even be a super-spreader.

So the difference between 5 and 500 travellers entering with the Delta variant won’t be exactly 100 times the infections - it could be the difference between the variant fizzling out altogether and it taking off.

So, had the country’s borders been closed to Indian travellers at the same time as it was closed to those from Pakistan then (probably) any imported Delta variant would not have “taken off” … :!:

BJ, by letting 20,000 Indian travellers into the UK, ensured extensive transmission of the virus … :shock:

Additionally:

The Delta variant entered the UK at a time when restrictions were being relaxed and in cold weather. The cold snap would have seen more people indoors and thus spreading infection, but also the virus surviving longer outdoors.

Bad judgement compounded by bad luck … :!:

A further 9,284 confirmed cases in the UK were announced by the government on Sunday.

A marked reduction, but, possibly, due to weekend returns. Tomorrow’s figure will be more accurate.

Not forgetting of course that despite the doom and gloom only 6 deaths

I must say I’m with Vlad on this one. Omah leaves out one of the most important statistics which is deaths.

In the current UK “wave”, deaths are of least importance - infections and hospitalisations rank greater.

If you have a morbid interest in the UK COVID death rate then follow the provided link and your curiosity will be satisfied.

Tell that to the relatives and loved ones of the dead.

He does like his big numbers :lol it’s going to ruin his day when they keep dropping.

A further 10,633 confirmed cases in the UK were announced by the government on Monday.

That figure takes us back to February 19.

For the morbidly fascinated, on that day, there were 381 recorded deaths - today, with a similar number of cases, there were 5 deaths.

And only 5 deaths so the infection rate is meaningless

It appears that vaccines might be having a good effect, although the new cases all seem to be the younger end of the scale, and they haven’t been vaccinated yet.

My granddaughter who is at university in Newcastle has tested positive for covid, after having a more accurate test at the hospital it was confirmed… She had a couple of days of discomfort but has now recovered with no after effects. It was believed she caught it from her boyfriend who also tested positive. Both have now recovered but are continuing their 10 days of quarantine. Neither of them had have the vaccine.

Sadly, the young are now bearing the brunt of the pandemic scourge but their youthful resilience is their best defence against the ill-effects of (and death from) the virus so I’m glad that your granddaughter and her boyfriend have recovered.

AFAIK, vaccination is now available, on request, to anyone over 18 and “pop-up” centres have proved extremely popular among the young. Hopefully, before Autumn, we shall see infection numbers return to the bottom end of the scale.

Thanks Omah…:023:
I hope that between the vaccines and natural immunity we won’t see the amount of deaths and hospitalisations this winter that we saw last year.

Hi

It is here, we are not going to get rid of it.

Now we have got vaccines and better medical treatment, to my mind it would be cheaper and better for all to spend more on the NHS to cope with Covid and the backlog than continue restrictions which are costing us far more.