Not even going to try on my phone 
There was a time when I would pay to keep up with technology but now I don’t need all these new features so why pay for them :?:
I don’t have a smartphone, it’s not the cost, it’s just I don’t need one, I don’t make phone calls, I’m not enthusiastic enough to want to carry one so I can check the latest tweets or what-have-you on the move. I like tech and have a good understanding of how it all works but in my old age I prefer to leave it all at home. Camera’s all I need.
Singapore has a good idea for oldies without smartphones - they’re given a dongle to hang round their neck (or put in a pocket) to perform track’n’trace functions … 
Yep same here. Everything I need to do on the internet can be done at home on this laptop where the keys are big enough to stop me fumbling around on a touch screen or a postage stamp keypad…I prefer to keep my faculties about me while out, without distraction, and like you d00d, a camera is all the equipment I need. Oh! and a mask so I can call in the shop for a cuppa or mars bar…
Hi
The App is very useful in Contact Tracing.
It does however have faults.
I have had 4 Covid Tests, all negative.
I will have another one next Wednesday, when I am in hospital for a few hours, possibly overnight.
The App will kick off then, simply due to proximity, even though I am in a secure environment.
Coronavirus: Your questions answered on new contact-tracing app
As of Thursday evening, it had been downloaded more than one million times by Android users, according to the Google Play Store.
The total figure is likely to be higher when iPhone downloads are included, but Apple does not provide similar figures for app downloads.
Lots of good advice, including:
At work I put my phone in a locker - I don’t want to be told to isolate just because the guy with the locker next door has a positive test
If you’re in this situation, there’s a switch on the app to turn it off*. Of course there are always times where it won’t work perfectly.
If you leave your phone in your jacket and someone else sits next to it, that might trigger the app. This is technology, not magic - but as most of us are pretty attached to our phones it should be okay.
- If contact-tracing is switched OFF, the app will ask if a reminder is required:
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[*]In 4 Hours
[*]In 8 Hours
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NHS Covid-19: App users unable to input negative tests
People who test negative for Covid-19 are unable to share the result with the new NHS app for England and Wales if they did not book the test through the app in the first place.
The app asks for a code to register a test result but a code is only received if the test is positive. Those who enter that they have symptoms without entering a result find a self-isolation countdown begins.
The Department for Health and Social Care said the app would be updated.
3 - 2 - 1 … 
NHS Covid-19 app: 12m downloads - and lots of questions
Rory Cellan-Jones & Zoe Kleinman
The app itself may look simple, but it has thrown up lots of questions about how it works and what its limits are.
Here’s our attempt to answer some of your queries:
WOW - that is an impressive number of downloads … :!:
Eaxample FAQ:
I get notifications which then disappear - what’s going on?
A number of people have reported getting notifications about exposure to the virus and then not being able to find out what they need to do next.
Some are confused because of the way they are written - including the phrase “exposure date, duration and signal strength have been saved”.
It appears that this again may be connected to the Apple-Google system, which sometimes sends out what are called exposure notifications. Here’s what the FAQ from the app team says about this issue:
“These are default messages from Apple and Google. There is no need to be concerned if you miss or overlook them, they are just visible to remind you that the functionality is on and working. You’re currently not able to turn off these default Apple and Google notifications.Important messages from the NHS Covid-19 app will always be visible to you from inside the app.”
I’ve not had that come up yet, but it would have been unsettling … :shock:
Schools tell teachers not to use NHS Covid app
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54460270
The NHS Covid-19 app for England and Wales has more than 16,000,000 downloads so far - but a range of employers are actively discouraging their staff from using it.
Earlier this week, both the pharmaceuticals company GlaxoSmithKline and a Hull-based fuel supplier told staff the app should be switched off at work - both said it was unnecessary in their “Covid-secure” workplaces.
And now, there are numerous reports teachers are being told they should not use the app in school.
A teacher in north-west England, who wants to remain anonymous, downloaded the app on the day it was released and then, last Monday, tested positive for coronavirus. It then triggered alerts telling three colleagues at the school to go into isolation.
But, according to the teacher, the secondary school’s business manager told the three people involved to ignore the messages and delete the app if they felt they had not been within 2m (6ft) for at least 15 minutes.
“Too many schools want to keep staff in, even if it means breaking the law,” the anonymous teacher said.
AFAIK, ignoring the messages is NOT illegal but, of course, it’s not very sensible, either … :!:
NHS app updated to ‘fix’ phantom messages
The NHS Covid-19 app has been updated to fix an issue with confusing alerts that pop up suggesting exposure to the virus and then disappear. The alerts will still appear, but now a follow-up message from the government will tell people to ignore them.
The team behind the app, which has been downloaded more than 16 million times, is working on a more substantial update which will involve moving to version two of the Apple-Google framework.
This could stop the confusing notifications appearing altogether but will also improve the way the app uses Bluetooth to measure distance between two phones.
So … not really a fix (yet) … 
Coronavirus: Police get access to NHS Test and Trace self-isolation data
In England there is a legal requirement to isolate after a positive test. People who have been told to self-isolate through NHS Test and Trace could have their details shared with the police on a “case-by-case basis”. Forces will have access to information telling them if an individual has been told to self-isolate, the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) said.
A memorandum of understanding was issued between the DHSC and National Police Chiefs’ Council to allow forces to access information that tells them if a “specific individual” has been told to self-isolate. Those who fail to do so face fines starting at £1,000, which can increase to £10,000 for serial offenders or serious breaches.
I’m not sure where this “access” will lead but I can see the necessity to give the police “tools” to assist enforcement of the law …… 
Hi
this is stupid, we are miles behind the curve in those Countries who are suffering the least.
We are led by idiots.
Covid contact-tracing app NOT sharing data with police
The developers of the Covid-19 contact-tracing app for England and Wales have stressed that none of the data it uses will be shared with the police.
It followed news that the contact details of people told to self-isolate by the NHS Test and Trace scheme in England would be shared with the police “on a case-by-case basis”. However, the app operates independently of this system.
The news from NHS Test and Trace on Sunday led to worried app users taking to social media to say they would delete it over privacy concerns. The Department for Health and Social Care told the BBC that neither the police nor the government received any data from the app.
In a tweet, the official account for the NHS Covid-19 app said “The app cannot be used to track your location, for law enforcement, or to monitor self-isolation and social distancing.”
Just in case app users are confused or concerned … 
Covid: NHS Test and Trace needs to improve, PM concedes
Mr Johnson previously pledged that all tests would be processed within 24 hours - unless there were issues with postal tests - by the end of June.
At Wednesday’s coronavirus briefing, he said he shared “people’s frustrations” at the turnaround times for results.
The government’s chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said it was “very clear there’s room for improvement” in the system.
It comes as figures showed just 15.1% of people who were tested received their result within 24 hours.
The figures for the week ending 14 October are down from 32.8% in the previous week.
Those are the government’s figures (“massaged” or not) and they’re absolutely appalling … :!:
How Dido “Incompetent” Harding continues to hold on to her incumbency is beyond belief … :shock:
Conservative MP Sir Bernard Jenkin describes a “vacuum of leadership in Test and Trace”.
Sir Bernard, chairman of the liaison committee of select committee chairs, wrote in the Sunday Telegraph that public consent and co-operation with England’s system was “breaking down”.
He said there should be a “visible and decisive” change, with a senior military figure put in charge of the system.
Baroness Dido Harding, currently at the helm, should be “given a well-earned break” so she and others could “reflect on the lessons learned so far”, he wrote.
Sir Bernard calls for Baroness Harding’s removal in a hard-hitting article in The Sunday Telegraph.
He also writes "The challenge for the government is becoming one of public confidence. There is a spaghetti of command and control at the top, which is incapable of coherent analysis, assessment, planning and delivery. The directorates suffer a high level of churn. Data analysis has had three director-generals in five months. Bosses do not ‘own’ their staff: most are temporary appointments and hard to recruit because of a ‘toxic culture’. People want to get out as quickly as possible. This is why the government is forced to rely on thousands of consultants at vast cost.
Blimey … harsh, but fair … :!:
FGS, BJ, get rid of “Incompetent” Harding - put someone with brains in control of fighting the pandemic … :roll:
The system is poor in lots of places.
You can’t make people cooperate.
“test-and-trace systems – especially in Madrid – have shown themselves to be woefully inadequate.”
This thread isn’t about “lots of places” - as you should know, direct comparison of countries’ responses to COVID-19 is made difficult because of all the variables involved …
This thread is about NHS Test and Trace, which has variables enough of its’ own*:
Sir Bernard Jenkin, chairman of the Commons liaison committee, said that a “vacuum of leadership in Test and Trace” was affecting compliance and suggested that Baroness Dido Harding, currently at the helm, should be “given a well-earned break” so she and others could “reflect on the lessons learned so far”.
“There is a spaghetti of command and control at the top, which is incapable of coherent analysis, assessment, planning and delivery,” he added. “People lack faith that there is a coherent plan.”
- AFAIK, no other country in the world has an “Incompetent” Harding in “control” of both NHS Test and Trace and NHS Improvement (or national equivalents) … :!:
I just gave you not one but two examples of similar incompetency!
Don’t expect exactly the same wording.
“Woefully inadequate” is how Spain’s is described and do you think the following is somehow other than abysmal?
“French contact-tracing app StopCovid has been activated 1.8 million times but only sent 14 notifications”
There’s more than that but TBH if you’re going to ignore that other places have problems because of your what?
Anti-government bias?
There’s not really any point, is there.
Are we good at this?
No.
Are we the only ones not good at this?
No, not by a long way.
Like I say earlier: The system is poor in lots of places.
You can’t make people cooperate.
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink … 
Just so.
You can’t make people download an app.
You certainly can’t make them be honest about who they see or where they go - despite threats of huge fines, even.
And even if you do find a contact AND they are honest, you can’t then make them strictly adhere to quarrantine rules - and that’s beside the fact they’ve already probably infected who-knows-how-many in the time it took to trace this one!
The only way tracking and tracing really works is in totalitarian regimes or in compliant regimes (like South Korea).
We (and most other places) are neither.