Coronavirus: Test and Trace App

Macron was praising out track and trace the other day - we have about 10 million subscribers of the app plus all hospitality outlets are issuing mandatory registration on entering them.

If Omah had his way we would be like communist china where if you don’t take a covid test you get shot.

Hi

An alternative view.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/emmanuel-macron-says-no-coronavirus-tracing-app-has-been-successful-3844732

LA trace is getting more than double the National one because they have EHOs going out on the ground.

A number of Military EHOs have been deployed as well.

As regards hospitality venues, you must be joking.

It is very patchy and some have been fined and some closed for not recording customers and having at times over a hundred in not complying with the rules.

Your comparing apples with oranges. This was about track and trace - in France hardly anyone will use the app anyway, same as Germany. The numbers using it it the UK are about 10million.

Deploying the military is what you do when you fail at everything else.

Do you really think track and trace makes any difference?It doesn’t really it just tells people to ignore the alert and presented they haven’t received one.

Its working a treat in France and Germany

NHS Covid-19 app to issue more self-isolate alerts

An update to England and Wales’ contact-tracing app is set to serve more self-isolation alerts. The change coincides with a change to the app’s algorithm to make its contact-matches more reliable.

“The update to the risk threshold is expected to increase the number of people asked to self-isolate by the app, having been in close contact with someone who tested positive,” Gaby Appleton (the latest head of the NHS COVID-19 app) blogged. “We believe lowering the threshold is necessary to reduce the R rate and break the chain of transmission.”

Of course, nobody knows how effective the app is in controlling the spread of the virus, if at all … :102:

Coronavirus: New boss of Test and Trace app Gaby Appleton only contracted for 6 months

Gaby Appleton, a director of Dutch academic publishing company Elsevier, was revealed by Sky News last week as the new head of the NHS COVID-19 app, which operates in England and Wales.

She is the THIRD person to lead the app team in the last SIX MONTHS. NONE of the three heads have a background in public health.

The news that Ms Appleton was on a six-month secondment to Test and Trace was not made public when her appointment was confirmed, despite being announced to her colleagues at Elsevier almost a month ago, according to internal emails seen by Sky News.

Yet another private sector “shoe-in” on megabucks who will, inevitably, fail miserably to contribute to controlling the spread of COVID-19 … :roll:

Just as anybody would equally be doomed to fail.
Success is impossible when a mere eleven percent of people are compliant.

That’s because 89% of people don’t trust BJ’s Cosy Coterie - once The Dome escaped the PM’s censure, followed by Gormless, Useless and then Incompetent, the way was open for everyone else to ignore the Coronavirus Rules … :069:

To put it bluntly: what a load of juvenile male cattle!

Explain why things are even worse in France and Spain as I showed you earlier in the thread then?
Don’t you remember?
The French app had been downloaded 1.8 million times in a population of 70-odd million … and it sent just 14 notifications.
14!

And I know you will hate this little fact: your hated Boris ain’t in charge there.
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Oh I see; you have no intention of accepting the truth.

You should just advise what you’re doing when you post so that we can stop feeding you.
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Is the UK’s NHS Covid-19 app too private?

A major update to the NHS Covid-19 app should mean that it is better at identifying people who have been in contact with someone infected with the virus. It should also send out more alerts telling those people to go into isolation. But the way the app is designed using a privacy-focused toolkit provided by Apple and Google means it will be very difficult to know what effect it is having.

That’s led some to suggest we’ve got the balance between privacy and effectiveness wrong. It is clear that the team behind the NHS app can get only limited data about its effectiveness. They will have details of how many positive tests have been registered and how many alerts have been sent to users telling them to self-isolate - but not their identity or where and by whom they may have been infected.

Ireland’s contact-tracing app, which also uses the Apple Google toolkit, DOES ask users if they are willing to provide a phone number. More than 80% of users have agreed to supply their number, which is stored on their phone rather than centrally and only supplied once the exposure notification has been triggered. The app’s developers say this means they have a better idea of just how effective it is proving.

So why has the England and Wales app gone down a path which appears to limit its usefulness?

Mr Tom Loosemore, who helped found the Government Digital Service, says there was a very effective privacy campaign in the late spring and early summer just as trust in the way the government was handling the pandemic was falling. “I think the truth is that those decisions were made because trust got lost very early,” he says.

The take-up for the NHS app has been phenomenal (20,000,000 downloads) - it’s a pity that its’ usefulness is limited … :frowning:

NHS Covid-19 app starts offering self-isolate payments

An update to England and Wales’s NHS Covid-19 contact-tracing app is adding a way to apply for a £500 grant if it gives a self-isolation order.

Until now, those on low incomes were only offered the payment if they had been told to stay at home by human Test and Trace operators.

The move comes at a time when the number of people testing positive for the coronavirus is on the rise again. Experts have suggested following the app’s guidance could help reverse that.

“People are not isolating because they can’t afford to or because they don’t realise that they have to - the whole system is not working,” Paul Hunter, professor of health protection at the University of East Anglia, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. “I think there is ample evidence that many people who should be isolating don’t feel they can for whatever reason, and I think that has to be fixed if this is going to be effectively controlled until we’ve had adequate rollout of the vaccine.”

England and Wales have both allowed people on low incomes, who cannot work from home, to apply for financial help if they have received a phone call, email, letter or text message telling them to self-isolate. Previously, that did not cover people who had received the app notification to isolate. This was in part because the app is designed to keep the identity of anyone receiving an alert private.

So, the challenge was to find a way to add the facility while still being able to prevent fraudulent claims. The solution involves a new financial support button that only appears on the app’s home screen if the user has been told to self-isolate.

If tapped, the user is taken out of the app to a webpage that asks them to select if they live in England or Wales. After responding, they need to fill in an eligibility criteria check, and if accepted are then asked to supply their contact details.

That’s a welcome improvement … :smiley:

Changes to NHS Test and Trace app mean everyone will now have to check in

Changes to the way we check in to venues on the NHS Test and Trace app have been made ahead of the reopening of hospitality from Monday.

The updates to the app have come into effect to coincide with the availability of rapid lateral flow tests for everyone in England from Friday.

The new regulations now state that everyone in a group must check in when they arrive at a pub or restaurant, either by scanning an NHS QR code poster on the app or by providing your contact details.

Last year it was only required that the lead member of the group checked in.

If a user has a positive coronavirus test result, they will be required to share their venue history privately on the app.

This will mean a venue will be alerted faster and local outbreaks will be able to be contained more easily.

If a person has been at a venue on the same day as someone who has since tested positive, they may receive an alert telling them to book a PCR test, whether they are showing symptoms or not.

Well, that let’s us out then. We don’t have smart phones.

I cannot wait to try out the new app, especially as it will track & trace anyone who Flu passed.

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Haven’t you got the downloads and the cost mixed up Omah??
20,000,000 downloads?
22,000,000,000, £s

 Do they know what a billion is??
 For a bloody phone app. !!!
  Jesus!!!

 Donkeyman!

Hi

Track and Trace has been as a big a disaster as Covid Vaccine has been a success.

The biggest waste of money in Modern Times, even bigger than HS2, with Tory friends and donors racking it in at ludicrous rates.

It has cost tens of thousands of lives at huge cost.

Heads need to roll.

NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google’s rules

An update to England and Wales’s contact tracing app has been blocked for breaking the terms of an agreement made with Apple and Google. The update had been timed to coincide with the relaxation of lockdown rules.

The plan had been to ask users to upload logs of venue check-ins - carried out via poster barcode scans - if they tested positive for the virus. This could be used to warn others. But the two firms had explicitly banned such a function from the start.

Under the terms that all health authorities signed up to in order to use Apple and Google’s privacy-centric contact-tracing tech, they had to agree not to collect any location data via the software. As a result, Apple and Google refused to make the update available for download from their app stores last week, and have instead kept the old version live.

When questioned, the Department of Health declined to discuss how this misstep had occurred. Scotland has avoided this pitfall because it released a separate product - Check In Scotland - to share venue histories, rather than trying to build the functionality into its Protect Scotland contact-tracing app.

“Misstep” … :lol:

So, what's the total cost of track n trace so far Omah ??

And how many traces so far ??
It’s all getting a bit murky for me!!

Donkeyman!

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/

In May last year NHS Test and Trace (NHST&T) was set up with a budget of £22 billion. Since then it has been allocated £15 billion more: totalling £37 billion over two years.

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Track & trace is the Royal Mail’s tracking system for letters & parcels DM.
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Test and trace does far more than trace possible contacts, as the name implies.

Everybody in the UK can now receive a kit to do a home Covid test twice a week.
That’s a lot of tests there alone.
Tests unsurprisingly cost money.

Even before this introduction, every schoolchild was being tested twice a week alongside the plethora of other being tested.
That’s why around one-and-a-half million test per day were being done before schools broke up for their Easter hol’s.
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