Climate change accelerating?

Unprecedented temperatures across Canada and northern
America, forest fires in Cypress after drought , and Antarctic ice
melting at record rates according to scientists ??
The signs are that the temperatures are rising faster than predicted !!
The ocean has risen by about 1 degree generally which is believed
to have caused an increase in jellyfish blooms all around the planet !
All it needs now is for the tundra to defrost, for humans to find it
difficult to exist in the manner we have become accustomed to !!

Donkeyman!
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Well I have noticed that the sun stings a lot more these last couple of summers and it never used to. Its more fierce. So yes, I’m kind of expecting things to change in ways we haven’t experienced and end up living differently. whatever that may mean. :shock:

It doesn’t look good, does it? but this not new information, Donkeyman.

No it’s not new Harbal, but the three items l posted about only
happened in the last two weeks !!
And there is nothing anyone can do about it in the short term!!
And maybe in the long term too ?
It’s being so cheerful as keeps me going !

Donkeyman!

It is an unusual combination of elements in my character that enables me to keep going in these worrying times. While I am a natural pessimist, I am also able to view our dire predicament with enough amusement to more than compensate for it. And, luckily, laughing emits nothing damaging to the environment. :slight_smile:

Unless you fart and laugh at the same time ??
Do you think the cows deserve their reputation as polluters ?
Surely vegitarians are just as bad aren’t they?
Your not a vegitarian are you ??

Donkeyman!

Or set fire to a pile of discarded tyres and laugh at the same time.

I don’t know, but just think how much more pollution they would cause if we stopped eating them before they reach their natural lifespan.

As bad as cows?

I’m not a vegetarian, but neither do I avoid vegetables.

Why does setting fire to tyres make you laugh Harbal ??
And cows were here millions of years before humans, and the
enviroment was still ok, untill we came along ?
I believe they call it “the balance of nature” or something !?

Donkeyman!

You miss my point, Donkeyman, which was that laughing does not make me set fire to tyres.

No, it merely seems to make you assume that it does. It isn’t always safe to apply your own experience to others.

Sorry to butt in but no they weren’t.
Humans domesticated them.

It is changes in climate (nature if you will) that caused the evolution leading to us, Homo Sapiens, just the same as it caused the evolution through aurochs into various types of bison and oxen and on to domesticated cattle.

As for accelerating climate change, well there opinion is just as polarized as with most things nowadays.
One thing that cannot be denied is that our planet has been through such changes before, in times when us humans weren’t about to be accused of being a causal factor.
:wink:

That’s quite ok Zaphod, you are of course correct, cows were modified
by us! I was referring to their ancestors of course ?
And also to the dinasaurs as well long before that ! Can you
imagine how much gas a brontosaurus or diplodocus would emit
when it Farted ??
And it still did’nt cause any climatic problems untill the meteorite
collided with us ??
I also agree about the climate changes the planet has gone thro
and l don’t think we can cause or alter what is happening either?
But maybe we should take whatever measures we believe are
necessary " just in case" ?

 Donkeyman!

You surely can’t be that naive can you? Fast food, McDonalds, roast beef…have all increased demand for beef. So the supply has stepped up and the world has zillions of beef cows to meet demand which takes a massive amount of land. In addition to the methane, the crops needed for their feed, takes up another massive amount of land.
By comparison, a vegetarian diet requires a tiny amount of land.
You need to see a film called “Before the Flood” and understand what we need to do for the earth to stabilise and sustain…and becoming vegetarian is EXACTLY what we should be doing!!! So fart and laugh at your own cost!!!

O dear I have just contributed to Global Warming as I have just put the heating on as I am Bloo*** cold today.

Sorry.

Don’t make me larf Linyloo ??
I won’t be responsible for the consequences
BTW, in my experience veggies promote more farting than when l eat
meat??
Think parsnips / beans etc ??
You forget that all those cows you moan about, have replaced all
the animals that used to roam freely about this planet fertilising
the soil as they went ??
And another thing you have got wrong is the amount of land
required to grow your veggies etc !
You have obviously never travelled thro hun dress of kilometres of
sugar cane, or mealies or wheat etc! etc!
And now soya is occupying more and more land all over the globe
every day ??
Donkeyman!

Talking about the tundra thawing ?
Since the op was posted, reports have have surfaced about the
Siberian tundra doing just that!! Buildings that were built on frozen
soil are now subsiding, and ponds are forming in some areas and
gas bubbles can be seen rising to the surface as the gases are
released from the tundra !!
Have a nice day !!

Donkeyman!

I fort you were going to say sumfink else Galty

Donkeyman!