Brexit costing us £1M... per hour!

The other alternative is to do nothing and let putin take ukraine, then Poland then Croatia ect,ect

I do love these type of people who “PLUCK” a figure out of mid air without any proof. Who the hell is Alaster Cambell anyway? He is just a journalist looking for attention . Like most in the media they try and make out the worst for sensationalism. Just another loud mouth who doesn’t know when to keep his gob shut

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That is not an alternative Primus, its wishful thinking and something you would read in the media to justify such a waste of life, money and equipment…
Acting on what you think Putin will do is foolhardy. Why not stage a full blown war against him if and when he does stray into none disputed NATO territory, and he is weaker from the war in Ukraine. Although what we could do on our own against the bear would just be suicide.

He’s a remainer realspeed, and didn’t like the way the referendum went. As with most remainers, he’s probably got big investments in Europe. Its all about money with them.

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He’s thinking woman’s crumpet.

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Best thing we ever did or should have done. We didn’t stick two finger up high enough to the EEC and completely said good bye. Instead it was a half hearted attempt because politicians were afraid of loosing their overseas free jollies on some pretext or other. They listened to the public with their heads under the pillows.
Even now remainers can’t accept the will of the majority decision for some reason or other. We joined for trade reasons which was ok until power hungry politicians made it a political issue

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But if putin had managed to take ukraine at his first attempt, and the west did nothing, then he would see that as nato being weak, then decide he wanted to go further, after all, he wants the old ussr back, I do agree that we have no military might anymore, years of cutbacks have seen to that…

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Not sure where that statistic came from but if the national debt is a gauge a country’s economic state (as i think it might be) this is how the UK is doing:

Pretty bad indeed. Then again, take a look at other countries both in and out of the EU. We’re all in the mire:

The debt per citizen is an interesting figure.

It’s not calculated on debt but on how much we would make out of trade with the EU vs the funding we had to contribute to the EU. You have to take this figure with a pinch of salt. The analysis goes back to May last year. So it will be pre the real impact of the war in Ukraine, but you do have to take into account the impact of Covid. We don’t really have any way to do a neat comparison. It’s clear that the current situation is a shambles. But it’s not so cut and dried to say that the £1m is directly as a result of Brexit.

Separate topic but Russia has never made any headway into Central Europe without European help. However, the West has never had so many trading ties with Russia as we have seen in the last 30 years. This is the crux of the problem. Being reliant on Russian gas oil and other imports.

It seems obvious that he has realised that getting Ukraine into the EU would take the financial load off the UK whilst, at the same time pushing the EU to, actually, do something about Russia.

Shrewd move.

But the EU will never let it happen.

That’s just silly. :rofl: