Sort of Sub-Globalism?
I bet the remainers can’t name one disaster of the UK leaving the EU.
Meanwhile the UK is beating 26 EU countries on GDP growth (that will change soon when we are in front of all of them), all of them on unemployment (especially youth unemployment) and all of them on inflation.
We also have heating and hot water, a centralised treasury and can control our external tariffs. Many other benefits too, like not having the Euro which is collapsing more and more each day.
If anything EU scepticism is rising in the EU, nations such as France are too scared to hold a referendum on membership because (as Macron says) they will vote to leave.
That may be so but having something not go wrong is also not usually counted as a benefit either. This thread is for detailing the benefits rather than the lack of disasters.
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Well, if you don’t want a job, want higher inflation, enjoy being locked down and wearing a facemask (longer than UK citizens), don’t want hot water and enjoy the power going off, the EU is brilliant.
It’s also great if you want to live in the Eurozone and demand lower economic growth (than the UK).
Or maybe you want to be in the EU because its socialism, regardless of how utterly disastrous it is.
That’s just sophist babble and says absolutely nothing about how Britain is better off since Brexit.
This thread is not about the state of the EU, if you want to discuss that why not start your own thread on that topic?
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Having a government you can vote out is a bit of a plus don’t you think ? Unlike the EU commission with its appointed self serving bureaucrats all on the gravy train.
Just remember, Bruce, you left the EU way before we did. If it was that great you would be living in it not running away from it, sitting there in your Australian pipe dream, belittling everything you walked away from to self justify that your life is actually better there LOL. All while you cling on to your dual nationality, just in case you have to come crawling back when it all goes wrong.
I’ve said on this thread that the benefits of the UK leaving the EU are that we are no longer in it. My comments are justifications of that statement - but once again as a typical socialist you try and shut down the argument, just because the truth never goes your way.
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You sound very bitter.
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I don’t think Bruce is a “Typical” socialist!
He may have some Champagne in the chiller.
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I think being a landlord disqualified me from being a socialist and I don’t like wine however I have a couple of dozen stubbies of beer in the fridge.
I almost hate drawing your attention to this but it was something I came across on a US forum, It is an article in a very serious monthly journal (I think - definitely not the US equivalent of the Daily Mail) but am interested in people’s response. The final paragraph is:
The U.S. has a different menu of problems from the U.K.’s. But here too, politicians are navigating an industrial sector in structural decline, a political left that is often skeptical about the virtues of economic growth, and a political right that is organized in part around hating foreigners. Enemies of progress can criticize the legacy of industrialization, productivity, and globalization. But the U.K. shows us what can happen when a rich country seems to reject all three. Rather than transforming into some post-economic Eden of good vibes, it becomes bitter, flailing, and nonsensical.
My bold but it does seem to sum up the problem neatly however the whole article needs reading carefully rather than just the headline.
Britain chose finance over industry,
Quite so, because the public were promised a life of ease and, no more dirty fingernails! 
And the other promise was no more dealing with this nasty trade unions, no more reds under the beds if we are all financial services capitalists. The Thatcher-era plan was to move to a services led economy.
But what has that to do with Brexit? The only link I can see is that the die-hard Thatcher inspired right of the Tory party see Brexit as the way to move the UK to de-regulated, services focused, make a quick buck (sorry, land of opportunities) country. They cite Singapore as it is a financial hub of Asia. They miss most of the lessons from how Singapore developed.
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Not much changes
I don’t remember there being much choice at all considering most of our manufacturing base was paid off to relocate.
The unions dragged our industry into the ground too and the militants made it impossible to businesses to thrive.
Only that the UK, since leaving the EU has now signed up to PESCO - something we have never been part of before.
I’ve said all along, the coup over Sunak was to drag us back into the EU and its happening. Thats why Truss was out straight away, the plan was to get rid of Boris, get rid of Brexit, with Sunak being the most likely to succeed him. The membership thought otherwise and voted in Truss who went headlong into getting the UK as quickly out of the rest of the EU regulations as possible. So we were given Sunak, because the remainers in the Tory party couldn’t have that and denied us another vote, with Hunt (arched remainer in chief) as Chancellor and Schnapps as Health Secretary.
The fight continues.
I’m not bitter at all, I just think the ex-pats who have to constantly put down the country they left need to remember that its the place they will be running back to when it all goes wrong. Thats why they cling on to their dual nationality, just in case their insecurities come home to roost and have to rely on the UK tax payer to bail them out.
I’m aware that with the buy out by Kraft, there was a shift of some confectionary production from the UK to Poland. But that is typical of a US company who focus on productivity and cost base.
I’m also very aware of the asset stripping companies such as BTR and Hanson who in 70’s and 80’s ran down many good UK manufacturing businesses. And I’m aware of some multinationals who moved their European HQ’s to Luxemburg or Switzerland to take advantage of those countries tax regimes.
But I’m unaware of other UK manufacturing moving to the EU. Which businesses are you thinking of? When did they move their production? Perhaps car parts production?
Ford Transit was another… I can give you lots more.
These companies were paid millions in EU grants to relocate to the EU. Thousands of workers out of a job and all bailed out by the UK tax payer. Just like our fishing fleet in the 80s and 90s thanks to the EU.
Wasn’t the Transit move one that affected other EU countries - were they not also making Transits in Germany or Belgium? And didn’t the closure of the line in Southampton actually involve switching production to Turkey? Where they are made today. Not in the EU. Who also saw production lines close. And not a penny of EU grant that I can see.
Just suggesting you need to be a bit more informed.
Transit moved to Turkey via an EU grant.
(and yes, I know Turkey isn’t in the EU).
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Some more info