There are 4 questions and only one is about migration. The first question is about whether citizens agree national assets should be sold to overseas buyers “Do you support the sale of state assets to foreign entities, leading to the loss of control by Polish women and men over strategic sectors of the economy?”
Question 2 “Do you support raising the retirement age, including restoring the retirement age increased to 67 for women and men?”
Question 3 “Do you support the elimination of the barrier on the border between the Republic of Poland and the Republic of Belarus?”
Question 4 : “Do you support the admission of thousands of illegal immigrants from the Middle East and Africa, under the forced relocation mechanism imposed by the European bureaucracy”
Are you sure? I do not think so as e. g. the retirement age is decided in every single EU member state.
About question #3 I think it is just the opposite: Poland wants to erect a stronger border to Belarus and not eliminate the barriers.
The Belarus issue definitely relates to the EU migrant situation. They have been subject to hybrid warfare tactics by Putin via Belarus. They erected a wall along the border last year/completed this year as Belarus is sending migrants to the Polish border and these migrants arrive in Minsk on the plane ( invited there). Then bussed to the Polish border where they are left stranded with the only option of breaking through the Polish border. The EU treatment would be to let these migrants in. The referendum question is a political game with the EU. As is question 4. I think the state pension age has just been added in to tick that box because the opposition want to raise the age and there is an election coming up next year.
The ownership of assets will again be a challenge to EU policy of investment by EU member states and other non Polish organisations in Polish assets. The current government changed all the rules on foreign ownership on an election promise. Any foreign entity has to have a Polish board member or possibly chair. But this will be counter to EU business rules.
So in part this is political football with the opposition and in part killing two birds with one stone by sticking two fingers up to the EU if (as is likely) people vote no to all in line with expectations.
Yes, I read this article with interest. It confirms what I’ve thought for some time: the trend is towards re-building relations with the EU and halting the various moves away (regulatory, security, legal, etc.). This will accelerate if Tories lose power in 2024, which seems likely. But the most telling observation here is the recognition that the EU has moved on from Brexit. They have no burning issues to address. Whilst they are pragmatic (rather than the Brexit fans dogmatic thinking) this is not the same as generous. What will the UK have to give up in any new negotiation?
Whatever we have to give up it will the fault of those who voted and campaigned for Brexit and deliberately threw away what we had and betrayed our allies, which will make them wary of giving us anything or trusting us in the future
That is bound to set the tone of any negotiations and it’s the Brexiters fault and part of the ongoing damage they’ve done to us
Whatever we have to give up will be worth it, though, to try to start putting right the harm done by Brexit
I don’t know anyone who voted for Brexit including members of my own family who doesn’t regret it now.
The Brexit campaign really brainwashed a lot of people including those very intelligent . They all say there have been no benefits but a lot of penalties that were never made clear at the time.
that was deliberate so that some very wealthy people could make even more money via hedging funds. It was very well orchestrated. A friend who works in journalism said that something sinister was going on in the sector just before the vote.
Josep Morrell is a senior EU commissioner. He says:
“nationalism was on the rise in Europe but this was more about migration than Euroscepticism. “Brexit actually was feared to be an epidemic. And it has not been,” he said. “It has been a vaccine. No one wants to follow the British leaving the European Union.”
Brilliant - the opposite of a disease.
I think that I (again) found another BREXIT benefit. France and Germany have commissioned a study about EU institutional reforms which entails possible methods of having possible future member states in an “assiciate member” state. That was only a study by (AFAIR) twelve researchers nothing else, especially no “plan” or anything else. It was not endorsed or supported by EU member states.
However, should the methods mentioned in that study become reality in the EU, then the UK can just lay back, watch it from the distance, no need to interfere, just keep going.
It is not a huge benefit I know, nothing like “prosper mightily”, but at least it is one.
This is a misleading article. Correction; this is a badly written, tub-thumping and misleading article. Perhaps you’d like to detail exactly what border checks Germany has introduced and for which borders - and why?
This is much more about the refugee and asylum seekers crisis across Europe than it is about anything else. It is certainly not about Brexit and there are no Brexit benefits to be seen here.
After New labour took over in 97, our GDP per capita caught up with Germany and it was then consistently higher until the crash of 2008/9. We overtook Germany again in 2015, only to go under again from 2016 onwards. It’s predicted to be about 10% lower in 2023. We are not predicted to overtake them until 2028. We also overtook France from 1997 onwards. They overtook us after the 2008 crash and again in 2015 we outpaced them. Although they gained some ground they are not predicted to get close to us by 2028, a 20% difference. The French economy appears to have gone downhill in 2015 and is recovering very slowly compared to other countries. Poland’s GDP per capita is predicted to grow 42% between 2023 and 2028. However, it is 2-3 times lower than France, Germany & UK. (nb this information is not summarised in the link below but an analysis of the information in the excel data file which anyone can d/l)
