Brexit benefits - where are they?

I can’t imagine anything worse than rejoining the EU…we are doing OK on our own…its our negative media that fail to report positives thats a big problem…

Where were the reports on mainstream news that BNP Paribas the French banking giant was urging investors to move into UK stocks ? Surely that’s news we should be proud of…but nothing the BBC ignored it.

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Ah, sorry, I thought this was the “Chip On The Shoulder” Topic!!

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And this:

https://www.themanufacturer.com/articles/uk-manufacturing-sector-climbs-to-eighth-in-world-rankings-make-uk-analysis/

The UK’s manufacturing sector has climbed one place to eighth in the world rankings, overtaking France in the process according to analysis of the latest official data published by Make UK today.

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Beyond the initial headline (and obviously the good news that UK manufacturing is growing) there is not a ton of Brexit positive insights here. Of course Brexit fans make the comparison with France - fav country to bash. But inside the article it notes that the UK is well behind Italy in manufacturing output. Italy.
Make UK has long been a campaigner against Brexit. That stance is made clear in the article:
“Ireland is the fourth largest export market (£30.3bn) with six of the top ten export markets being in the EU. Together they are worth approximately £150bn, almost three times the exports to the US”
“It strongly cautioned that it is only the third time since 2002 that the UK has ranked above France and cannot be attributed to any post Brexit bounce or other specific factor.”
I would also note that the crashing in the value of the pound following Brexit means that the UK output is currently artificially cheaper.

But the UK isn’t supposed to be a manufacturing country, we’re services led.

The pound was overvalued before Brexit.

There’s a medical condition, since Brexit, known as Brexit-derangement-syndrome, hope they can find a cure for it soon.

At £1 = 1.44 euro that is a valid observation. At £1 = 1.3 euro that is incorrect, its about right. At £1 = 1.16 (and it was a lot lower for longer) that is under valued. Which is one reason why food costs are so high. You clearly like highly selective information (re-write - you need highly selective information). There is certainly a medical condition for that.

Oh for gawd sake all across Europe food prices are higher than they were. Before the Ukraine war ours were one of the cheapest. And I wasn’t talking about the pound versus the euro, I was talking about the pound versus the dollar as that’s the important one and thought all the grown ups knew that.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Apparently the way to prove a point is to copy a newspaper article (well, some have to copy from rags like the Mail, Express or Gumpto Flakes but I’ll use a genuine newspaper).

Another excellent Brexit win - less investment in the UK. Every little (and in this case very little) helps.

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I used that same paper in post 2197, but didn’t see you comment on that post.

I can’t keep up with your daily news feed of anything that attempts to put a shine on Brexit, aims to show other countries (especially France but Germany is suitable as well) have problems, aims to distract from the mess that is Brexit, aims to pretend things are getting better, attempts to portray all other countries as having the same problems as the UK, digs up a dubious up turn in anything in the UK and claims its a sign that Brexit is working, etc. Your relentless hard work is impressive but like someone who boasts too much it is easy to suspect that she doth protest too much. So I mostly don’t read them. Too many, too long, too much like propaganda. Do you get them sent from Brexit Party HQ?

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Nope I browse a selection of papers every night and if when browsing I see an article which might be of interest to some I post it and those who aren’t interested can just scroll past.

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Article from a genuine newspaper:

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I found this paragraph very interesting: “According to Make UK while the climb up the rankings is encouraging, it strongly cautioned that it is only the third time since 2002 that the UK has ranked above France and cannot be attributed to any post Brexit bounce or other specific factor.”

Again I fail to see a benefit here which matches the title of this thread. :pensive:

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Is this meant to demonstrate a benefit of Brexit?

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Well I personally think it is as when we were in the EU we were prioritising white European people which to me was racist, now we have enough jobs to employ from anywhere in the world we want to. Are you saying you want to return to only employing white Europeans?

Your broadminded thinking and openness to immigration of workers is to be applauded.
I think your admirable approach is, however, not universal. Back before 2016 much was talked about the influx of significant numbers of central / eastern Europeans. This was especially noted in more rural areas where enclaves of Polish or Romanian people became established but it was also noted in big cities. There was a sense of discomfort from people about this influx - in some cases strong dislike and distrust. It is impossible to deny that this was a significant factor in the referendum in 2016.
It seems unlikely that such a sense of discomfort would have been less if these enclaves had been made up of people from Asia or Africa, does it? I’d even hazard a guess that it would be a tad worse. So I doubt if your fine perspective is widely shared.

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Yup I’ve noticed you assume a lot. Don’t know about you, but rather than sending poorer countries money, I prefer to do more trade with them so they can become more self-sufficient. When we left the EU how many MEPs were black as compared to when the Brexit Party had MEPs? How many European countries have black MPs? Brexiteers have always been called racists by Remainers, where I think it’s the Remainers who are the racists.

Look at how much Poland has now improved since we’ve left the EU.

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Goodness, so much dubious thinking in one post.
Rather trade than offer charitable help? Great way to make the already rich in a poor country even richer and deny the poor of that country anything other than terrible work conditions and even worse pay. Great thinking. Note, because you are the champion of assumptions, that this is not me saying not to trade. Just think of it like trickle down economics - it doesn’t trickle down.
Number of coloured or black politicians across Europe - dunno but like you I suspect its a small number. Does this mean there is racism across Europe - most likely. Does that mean the EU itself is based on racism - no, there is no way to make this claim. So what’s your point?
Did I call those that voted for Brexit racist? No, not at all. Nothing in my post said that. But its interesting that you latched onto that notion isn’t it? Worse, your absurd logic twisting to say that someone who is pro-EU is therefore anti-non European is sick and dumb. It would be offensive if it was not so plainly nonsensical. I’ll enjoy ripping apart this “thought” of yours if you care to try to defend it. Please.
Lastly, Poland has been growing its GDP by around 4% since joining the EU. The strongest and most consistent growth within the EU. It has and continues to benefit from being in the EU. Again, what’s your point?

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Reuters credibility is the only source that is reliable.

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