Boris Johnson WhatsApps - Tories refuse to disclose cost to taxpayers of failed legal fight with Covid Inquiry

Boris Johnson has been referred to police by the Cabinet Office over further potential rule breaches during the Covid pandemic. The department said it made the referral after a review of documents ahead of the Covid public inquiry.

The Metropolitan Police said it was assessing information it had received from the Cabinet Office last week. “It relates to potential breaches of the Health Protection Regulations between June 2020 and May 2021 at Downing Street,” the force added.

The former prime minister, who was fined last year for breaking Covid rules in 2020, denies any wrongdoing.

A spokesman for Mr Johnson said: “Some abbreviated entries in Mr Johnson’s official diary were queried by Cabinet Office during preparation for the Covid inquiry. Following an examination of the entries, Mr Johnson’s lawyers wrote to the Cabinet Office and Privileges Committee explaining that the events were lawful and were not breaches of any Covid regulations.”

Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they … but BJ was a notorious breacher and, so far, has only received a wrist-slap - it’s about time that he got his come-uppance … :grin:

I think you should move on.He’s the teflon man.

Boris Johnson has been referred to police by the Cabinet Office over claims he broke lockdown rules by hosting family and friends at Chequers during Covid.

The visits to the former prime minister’s grace-and-favour residence were found in his official diary by his government-funded lawyers as they prepared his defence for the public inquiry into the pandemic.

They raised the issue with senior officials in the Cabinet Office, who then referred the matter to police as they were obliged to do under the ministerial code, and also the privileges committee, which is investigating whether Johnson lied to the Commons over Partygate.

He really is despicable, isn’t he, the way he behaved during Covid was shameful, and yet he has no shame :woman_shrugging:

I doubt he’ll get the punishment he deserves, the chumocracy have got things too well sewn up.

We’ll just have to be content knowing are country isn’t suffering the disgrace of having such a man as our PM any more and hope karma catches up with him soon

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I was allowed just 15 people at my husband’s funeral .
Grieving and lockdown was terribly isolating.
My sister didn’t get to see her newborn baby grandson.
While all the time Boris and his cohorts were Yoho hoing partying at No 10 …then lying about rule breaking.

Sickening.

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I am sorry Ripple, I know how much it hurts xxxx

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More details:

Both the Metropolitan and Thames Valley Police say they are assessing the information received.

Thames Valley Police said it had “received a report of potential breaches of the Health Protection Regulations between June 2020 and May 2021 at Chequers, Buckinghamshire”.

The Metropolitan Police released a similar statement but said their information related to potential breaches in Downing Street.

A statement from Johnson’s office said his lawyers had written to police to “explain in detail why the Cabinet Office is entirely wrong in its assertions”. It read:

“For whatever political purpose, it is plain that a last-ditch attempt is being made to lengthen the privileges committee investigation as it was coming to a conclusion and to undermine Mr Johnson. Mr Johnson’s lawyers have tonight written to the police forces involved to explain in detail why the Cabinet Office is entirely wrong in its assertions. The events in question were all within the rules either because they were held outdoors or came within another lawful exception. They include regular meetings with civil servants and advisers.

A source told the Guardian the documents revealed “fairly clear evidence of criminality” given strict lockdown rules in force at the time. While those at parties in No 10 were government employees, leading Johnson to claim he was following an exemption for gathering for the purposes of work, the same could not be said of all those invited to Chequers, it was claimed.

How many visitors and why they were invited to No 10 and Chequers will make interesting reading, if disclosed … :thinking:

Hi

Boris needs publicity, it is what he thrives on.

He is a magnificent Orator with absolutely no sense of shame.

He is a predatory misogamist , out for affairs when his wife had Cancer.

He is not someone I can relate to, he does not give men a good name.

He thrives on Publicity and is very confident that he can manipulate public opinion as a likeable rogue.

Please stop playing his game, he will beat you with having no morals and years of experience.

The best way to defeat him is simply to ignore him, it sends him ballistic.

Just say nothing about him at all, take him out of the spotlight he so desperately craves.

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The former PM was last night said to be furious about the move which his allies suggested was ‘politically motivated’

BJ goes Trump … :047:

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Boris Johnson will no longer work with government-appointed lawyers for the Covid inquiry, after he was referred to the police over further potential rule breaches during the pandemic.

Mr Johnson was said to be “livid” that the material was passed to the police and had lost confidence in the objectivity of the leadership at the Cabinet Office - both ministerial and official.

He will now appoint new lawyers to represent him at the inquiry, which will be funded by the taxpayer.

Why are we paying for his personal lawyers … ?

because it all occurred during the term of his govt tenure?

There’s no precedent for that:

The Treasury’s spending rulebook says its consent should always be sought for costs “which set precedents, are novel, contentious or could cause repercussions elsewhere in the public sector”.

The BBC asked the Cabinet Office if this would apply to Mr Johnson’s legal bills, in a freedom of information (FOI) request. We were told the Treasury was not required to approve all spending decisions.

The contract to hire Mr Johnson’s legal team - led by top barrister Lord Pannick KC - was signed last August, shortly before he was forced to resign as prime minister.

It was this week extended for the third time, rising in value from £222,000 to £245,000.

The Cabinet Office and a source close to Mr Johnson argued there is a long-standing precedent that former ministers are supported with legal representation.

But former senior civil servants disputed this, telling the BBC that it would not normally apply to parliamentary inquiries, like the one into Mr Johnson.

“Payment of legal fees to the former prime minister in these circumstances would seem to set a precedent and is certainly contentious, so looks on the face of it to meet the test to require Treasury approval,” said Alex Thomas, a former top civil servant and director of the Institute for Government think tank. I’m surprised that the payments were made at all - but also that they were signed off in this way."

A former permanent secretary also said they were surprised that Treasury approval wasn’t sought.

“I would have regarded this as novel and contentious,” the former senior civil servant said. “The whole situation is highly unusual, if not unique. It’s just the sort of situation that Treasury cover is needed for.”

The last former minister to be investigated by a parliamentary committee for misleading Parliament was former Labour MP and transport secretary Stephen Byers in 2005. During the four-month inquiry, Mr Byers appeared in front of MPs to give evidence, as Mr Johnson did in March this year.

But unlike Mr Johnson, Mr Byers did not have any legal representation - taxpayer funded or otherwise - during the parliamentary inquiry, nor was he offered any by the government.

More recently, Dominic Raab, the former deputy prime minister, paid his own legal fees during a bullying inquiry.

It seems that “The Cabinet Office” has assumed remarkable powers in the last few years, including not only the unauthorised payment of taxpayers money to a former minister under inquiry but also, as we found out today, the arbitrary right to withhold evidence about that former minister from the inquiry under which he is being investigated.

Now that the “approved” lawyers have been dismissed by BJ, there’s no reason, let alone precedent, for the taxpayer to foot the bill for his expensive “unapproved” lawyers.

BJ, of course, would prefer that someone else pays his expenses - AFAIK, he still living, courtesy of Lady Carole Bamford, the wife of Tory donor Lord Bamford (JCB), rent-free, in a £20million property in Knightsbridge, West London, round the corner from Harrods.

Johnson, who has earned £millions since being forced out of Number 10, estimates, for the purpose of Parliamentary expenses, that the gift from Lady Bamford is worth £10,000 a month but a similar home is being offered for rent for £30,000.

If BJ can get some to foot his bills then he does and keeps his own in his pocket.

The former PM was approached by Sky News before catching a flight in Washington - and said any new claims of rule-breaking were “absolute nonsense”. He said the diary entries were “completely innocent”. He added that the diaries, from his time in Downing Street, “merely record entries in my day”.

The short interview is Mr Johnson’s first public comment on the latest development and he said: “This whole thing is a load of nonsense from beginning to end.”

Mr Johnson told Sky: “There are tens of thousands of entries in the prime ministerial diary - none of them constitute a breach of the rules during Covid.”

Well, if we’re allowed a look then we shall see … :face_with_monocle:

Boris Johnson’s political future looks increasingly in doubt after fresh claims emerged about visitors to Chequers while Covid restrictions were in place. BBC chair Richard Sharp, Mr Johnson’s cousin Sam Blyth, and Tory peer David Brownlow are reportedly among those named in diary entries referred to the police by the Cabinet Office last week. A visit to Chequers in May 2021 by two friends of Carrie Johnson, which is thought to have resulted in an overnight stay, has also been flagged, The Sunday Times claimed.

The revelations have prompted a Westminster guessing game about who may have visited Mr Johnson at the grace-and-favour Buckinghamshire mansion between June 2020 and May 2021 – the period being looked at by police. Friends of the former prime minister include the journalist Alex Wickham, former adviser Henry Newman, and long-time spokesperson Ross Kempsell, who is believed to be Mr Johnson’s tennis partner and is also said to be in line for a peerage in the former prime minister’s resignation honours list.

If true, the latest claims could be especially damaging for Mr Johnson, given that Mr Sharp was forced to stand down from the BBC after being found to have breached the rules on public appointments. Lord Brownlow has also made headlines in the past for his role in paying for the refurbishment of Boris and Carrie Johnson’s flat.

The diary revealed around a dozen visits by friends to Chequers during the pandemic, and new allegations about Mr Johnson’s behaviour in Downing Street.

Are we getting blood from the stone … :question:

Announcing the extension, the inquiry revealed it had been told the Cabinet Office did not currently have the WhatsApp messages or notebooks in its possession.

If the department still does not have the material by Thursday, the inquiry said it must instead provide its correspondence with Mr Johnson over the issue.

Cabinet Office sources would not confirm which material they do not currently have.

A spokesman for Mr Johnson said he had “no objection to disclosing the material to the inquiry”.

He said Mr Johnson had cooperated with his Cabinet Office legal team, who had “access” to all the material.

There must be some truly compromising material, over which Boris “Trump” Johnson is prepared to go to court rather than pass it over … :thinking:

Former Prime Minister Boris Johnson says he has given the UK government all the WhatsApp messages and notebooks demanded by the Covid-19 inquiry.

Mr Johnson is urging the government to hand the material to the inquiry in full, without redactions.

So BJ puts the onus on Sunak … :man_shrugging:

I think these contain a lot of revelations about Sunak which is why the cabinet are reluctant to hand them over. They know Sunak will be ended when these get out, hence the delays.

Johnson will most likely be the next PM if this happens and then Labour will tank in the polls again.

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The Cabinet Office, which is taking the lead for the government, has said it will apply for a judicial review. This means a judge will decide whether the inquiry had overreached its legal powers to demand evidence.

I have got a more technical question here.

Wow does he actually manage to “hand his WhatApp messages over” to somebody? You can export a chat in WhatsApp, then you will get a text file.
This can easily edited and parts can be altered/removed.

As far as I know there is no technical way of giving the entire WA messages to somebody else unless you hand over the entire phone including the SIM card.

Am I missing something?