Ann Widdecombe was hit on head 21 times with a hammer

Starting a new thread amid all the controversy in the last one - let’s hope nobody has an issue with this title since it’s the headline from the latest BBC story!


For those who don’t know who Ann Widdecombe is and why she was considered evil and despised by so many people, here’s a recap of some of her highly controversial views regarding history, race, and the LGBTQ+ community - statements which drew widespread public condemnation throughout her life. Critics, human rights advocates, and political opponents have frequently labeled her remarks as hateful, offensive, and discriminatory.

Slavery and Colonialism Analogies

  • Comparing Brexit to a slave rebellion: In her 2019 maiden speech to the European Parliament, she drew a direct parallel between the UK leaving the European Union and the emancipation of slaves. She stated, “There is a pattern consistent throughout history of oppressed people turning on the oppressors – slaves against their owners, the peasantry against the feudal barons, colonies… against their empires, and that is why Britain is leaving.” Politicians and historians heavily condemned the comments for trivialising the horrors of chattel slavery.

Use of Racially Offensive Language

  • The “Golliwog” controversy: During the 2019 general election campaign, a leaked WhatsApp chat revealed Widdecombe using a racial slur. Commenting on internal party tensions, she wrote, “Yes. I threw all my toys out of the pram. Bears and gollywogs [sic] everywhere!!” She flatly refused to apologise, arguing it was merely an innocent reference to a 1950s children’s toy.

Statements on Homosexuality and Conversion Therapy

  • Suggesting science could “cure” homosexuality: During a 2019 interview on Sky News, she defended gay conversion therapy and stated, *“The fact that we now think it is quite impossible for people to switch sexuality doesn’t mean that science may not yet produce an answer at some stage.”*This sparked immense backlash from LGBTQ+ groups who noted it treated homosexuality like a disease.
  • Voting record against equal rights: Throughout her time as an MP (1987–2010), she voted against lowering the age of consent for gay men, opposed the repeal of Section 28 (which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools), and consistently voted against civil partnerships and equal marriage.

Platforming Extremism

  • Appearing on fringe broadcasts: Research groups like HOPE not hate highlighted that Widdecombe made multiple appearances on the Richie Allen Show. The platform is widely known for hosting Holocaust deniers and promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Views on Women and Social Issues

  • Dismissing the #MeToo movement: Widdecombe has dismissed major components of the #MeToo movement as “trivial whinging,” claiming that women looking for grievances over minor, historical workplace discomforts were losing their sense of proportion and humour.
  • Shackling pregnant prisoners: As a Home Office minister in the 1990s, she aggressively defended the policy of chaining pregnant prison inmates while they were in hospital giving birth, a stance that drew fierce condemnation from human rights organisations.

For those who think racism, sexism, and other types of bigotry is harmless or doesn’t lead to actual violence really should watch this:

For those who think homophobia and anti-lgbt sentiment doesn’t lead to harm or suicide (especially of young people) may want to watch this - it’s a trailer of a film based on a true story:

The full film appears to be on YouTube too (highly recommended!)

For anyone who watches those and still thinks that kind of hate is ‘ok’ then I can’t help but feel sorry for your offspring, because statistically, a number of them will either be somewhere on the gay spectrum (49% of young people identify as ‘something other than 100% straight’), or might marry someone of colour, have children who will be mixed race (i.e your grandchildren or great grandchildren or great-great grandchildren) or be a woman or part of some other minority group. By supporting Widdecombe and thus platforming her and giving the kind of hate she spewed credibility, you will be making life significantly harder for them :icon_cry:

If you want to be despised by your progeny, sure, keep supporting hateful people like Widdecombe (and Farage, and Hopkins, and all the other nasty, hateful lot) but maybe also have a strong hard look in the mirror and ask yourself what kind of person you are and what kind of world are you shaping for your children and their children.

I love how this professor forces those with hateful and discriminatory views to take a long hard look at themselves…

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You really couldn’t let it go just with your initial sentence, could you!

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Hi

Yes she was, a deliberate,brutal,violent attack on an old woman.
2i hits on her head with a hammer and the whole attack, from a man who had travelled 280 miles to kill her, lasted less than 2 minutes.

Absolutely disgusting and totally wrong.

It would be fair to say that I did not have a lot in common with her, she annoyed me intently at times.

I was an Enforcement Officer, my job was to protect others.

It was not to be judge, jury and executioner.

The UK is a Democracy, that is why we have Trials, with Juries of ordinary people.

I am very happy to live in a Deocracy, it is our securiy system.

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Nearly, close but not quite.

When ever I hear her name all I can think about is "Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all". Know nothing about her other than her murder.

@Azz If you’re losing an argument bring in the children and grandchildren of those you’re losing it to. My sons (in their 50s) and my grandsons (30s) know my views and haven’t disowned me! In fact I have had discussions with both sons on this situation - we all agree that this was a brutal murder of an elderly woman in her own home and are appalled by it whatever her opinions she didn’t deserve that.

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I looked at the photograph of the man charged with her murder yesterday - a normal looking guy on the surface, but one that travelled hundreds of miles with the intention of bludgeoning a defenceless woman to death.

I hate the fact that someone who looks ‘normal’ could do such a thing.

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Steady On Azz. Steady as it goes. :wink:
There’s no doubt you are more familiar than most with DOS. & Digital than the average punter.
BUT.
With SM. Comments made, within. And every click of the Qwerty.
Have been and are pivotal in the Investigation of this heinous crime. [Profiling]
We would be saddened to read.
That MI.5/6 or7.
Was busy busy In S. Wales.
:wink: E :wink: >> :innocent:

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And that’s all you need to know.
A 78 year old lady having her lunch, in her own home and murdered by a bloke who hit her 21 times with a hammer.
It only took 2 minutes to snuff out her life.

RIP Ann Widdecombe.

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I did not read anything in Azz’s opening post on this thread where it suggests that Widdecombe deserves this (horrific) attack. So I agree with your post. It is a terrible situation that within the last ten years we have seen the murder of three politicians here in the normally safe UK.
Individually we can, for each of the three, make our own minds up about whether the legacy they left is worth remembering, forgetting or praising. But a few days after such a murder is perhaps not the best time to either damn or glorify that legacy. Especially as at this stage we do not know what motivated the killer to act as he did.

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Basically, it’s the Cursed, Misused, Misapplied Word. “Freedom”
That has Big Time again. Come to Roost.
Give an Inch. And They Take a Mile.
In this instance. 9Hrs and 530Mls !!!

Well you obviously missed this in the opening post:
‘If you want to be despised by your progeny, sure, keep supporting hateful people like Widdecombe’
There are other similar comments in the other Ann Widdecombe thread on the forum plus her being referred to as ‘evil’ in the words used to catalogue this post.

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I did no such thing.

There is a difference between condoning murder and saying you cannot sympathise with the death of someone who used their platform to spread hateful and highly damaging views, like I said in the first post that is not my personal opinion: "Critics, human rights advocates, and political opponents have frequently labeled her remarks as hateful, offensive, and discriminatory."

Maybe you’re not looking far enough, as I mentioned, statistically speaking, if your sons have children then someone at some point in time in your family will either be:

  • Gay
  • Marry a person of colour
  • Be mixed race
  • A woman

Well the thread needs some context - otherwise it will look like we’re 12 days late!

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Not sure what point you are making; one of my grandsons is married to a ‘person of colour’ as you put it and I get along with her very well indeed. I brought my sons up to be open minded and able to discuss their views with others without prejudice and my grandsons have been brought up in the same way. To respect the right of others who may not have the same beliefs as we do. I would guess that if any of my family had the opportunity to talk to Ann Widecombe they would have treated her in the same way. My grandson and his wife have been in situations which were prejudicial against their marriage and have handled it with resilience and politeness.

Sometimes you hear reports about elderly people who have defended themselves against an intruder, some so bravely that the intruder has actually run away.

At 78, Ann Widdecombe was younger than some of them, also still fairly active, and i’m sure would have tried to defend herself if possible.

The murderer clearly intended to not give her that opportunity - as Morticia said it was all over in a couple of minutes.
Anne Widdicombe obviously didn’t have any time to respond, or even to be aware what was about to happen.

I hope they throw away the key.

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My understanding is that she was eating her lunch at the time of the attack, so she would have been perfectly relaxed. It looks as if her door was left unlocked - quite usual in a small village. I wonder whether the killer had been watching her, maybe making trips down for that purpose. We shall find out in due course I am sure.

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